The National Midnight Star #2049

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Rush VH1's Top 100 A Farewell To CDs Geddy's X-File Cousin my rush page re: Didacts & Narpets Aimee Mann re: Caroline's "Your own Red Barchetta" Visions and B-Man (U) Rush in Norway RE:re: If You're RED your're DEAD Iron Maiden B-MAN CONFUSION!! Re: 06/02/98 - The National Midnight Star #2045 In vain to search for HONOR Re: Hold Your Fire through Power Windows (#2048) Iron Maiden Time sigs... He's too busy A Rush EP? Addicts and Parents rush = alternative, warcraft 2 RE: My Red Barchetta ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager) Date: Thu Jun 4 14:16:27 PDT 1998 Subject: Administrivia I did a BIG goof! The Japanese scans were provided by the kindness of DAVE WELLER, for the show Rush did in Tokyo. Why I keep confusing him and Jim is beyond me... sorry Dave!! But if you want Rush collectibles, either one has a ton of unique stuff for sale! - rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Buckley - Staff <buckley@globalserve.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 16:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re : NMS >Maiden is basically washed up, Rush is still going strong. Read your post about rush - Iron Maiden!!!! I was with ya all the way up until you said Iron Maiden was washed up!!!! Maybe in America... In Europe and South America Iron Maiden is Selling out especially in Brazil... I am in Canada...I payed $22 to see rush....I am paying $35 to see Maiden... And Maiden has almost sold out their copps colliseum show in Canada as well..for June 28th. so I'm gonna have to disagree with that one... Later Paul.... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan 'Max' Dobberstein" <bmaxd@anet-stl.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:08:38 -0500 Subject: The Rush Chronicles > P. S. This is a first post from a reader for several years, I actually > helped produce a newsletter for Prodigy readers years ago called "The > Chronicles". Any former subscribers out there? Subscribe? Hell, I wrote for the thing. Those are some old ghosts you're digging up Dreamline. :) Max ******************************** |When a writer is staring out a| |window, he's working. | | -Neil Peart- | ******************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "The Clayton's" <claytons@flash.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:43:08 -0500 Subject: Narpets para Martin Martin, " Narpets" is an anagram for parents. Mama y Papa. "Didacts" is a rearranged addicts. I think you guys are mui bien (mucho bueno?) to translate this stuff. The music is so powerful, but the lyrics are awesome! You are great to translate and share with others. My son Alex, who just turned 5 thinks "It's my turn to drive." Just to contribute to the kiddie lyric thread. He keeps saying that he wants to go see Rush. Don't we all? Later, Lara ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete <trigeek@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Blind Rush fans? >> [ The problem with this past tour is it wasn't promoted much (in a lot of >> cities it wasn't advertised AT ALL!) and I guess a lot of Rush fans >> just didn't know about the tour. : rush-mgr ] > >Exactly! If not for TNMS, I don't know when I would've heard about the >tour. I know several people who went only because they heard via the net. >The local paper didn't mention it until the week of, and coming up with $40 >and a ride in just a couple of days is, for many people, a bit much... > >Maybe the NEXT tour (hint to Rush's management) will be well-advertised. I >have missed Rush in the past because I just didn't hear about it... There's an old saying that goes something like this, "Better to keep quiet and have people think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." C'mon guys, are we supposed to believe that TRUE Rush fans (or NON-Rush fans, for that matter) didn't know about this tour? Even if I hadn't been on the Net, I still would have had the initiative to find out about, and then go to the eight TFE shows that I went to. Rush follows every CD with a tour! Duh! Peter GO SABRES!!!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: broon <broon@epix.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 18:38:12 -0400 Subject: My Red Barchetta My RED BARCHETTA would be a 1995 Acura Integra. And yes the obvious song was the first song played. But living in the "Great White North (east)", I drove it home from the dealership (new) only to park it for a week under 3 feet of snow. (Caroline you little sassy so-in-so you beat me to posting this thread !!! I think you need to be punished !!!) - AND MOST OF ALL... Please... Don't forget not to forget. later... broon Mac OS8 = Windoze 2010 (if it can be released) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete <trigeek@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Clsoer To The Sabres Hearts >From: brogdene <brogdene@erols.com> >Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:55:05 -0400 >Subject: Caps! > >Well, they lost the game, but they played Rush as a filler whilst >waiting for a face-off. Just one more reason the Sabres are gonna lose >this series. :-) > >ed brogden >brogdene@erols.com Hey Ed, they played Rush in Marine Midland when the Capitals won also. I guess that means the Sabres are going to win the series. And, if you look closely at the TFE tour program (yes, for you who don't know yet, Rush did tour after TFE), you'll see several photos from the CP show at The Aud. Slam dunk for the Sabres. Rush Dominates! Peter If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: David Gracey <david.gracey@ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:11:35 -0700 Subject: Your Own Red Barchetta / Rush and Kids / King's X This is my first post. I'm relatively new to the list, but I've been a Rush fan for close to 20 years now. I remember hearing "The Spirit of Radio" when it first came out in '79 or '80. I was in elementary school back then. From that point on, I've been a diehard fan. I'm 30 years old now and Rush is *still* my all-time favorite band. Anyway, when I turned 16, I bought my first car: a 1974 MG Midget. I fixed it up really nice and had it painted bright red. One of my favorite pastimes was driving around with the top down in my own "Red Barchetta" while listening to Rush. I don't have that car anymore (couldn't afford a full-time mechanic), but I always think about that car every time I hear the song. I loved that car. I have a 2-year old daughter now and believe me, she is getting her share of Rush as we drive around town in my Black Honda Civic Barchetta. All indications suggest that she loves the music of Rush too. And, for those of you interested in King's X, I recommend "Gretchen Goes to Nebraska" and "Out of the Silent Planet". -David. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: harper@magiclink.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:31:36 +0000 Subject: T4E tour Hey there, Hi there, Ho there!! The only reason I knew about the T4E tour coming to Boise, ID was because my little sister's ex-boyfriend and his dad like Rush and they happened to hear a radio spot promoting the concert. I immediately called the BSU Pavillion's box office and heard on their recording that, indeed, An Evening with Rush was scheduled for May 19th, 1997. The next day, I heard the radio spot myself. The big thing was that it was the first time Rush had been to Boise(Or anywhere in Idaho, for that matter) in 12 years and that they were going to play 2112 in it's entirety. So...I got to see my heroes in concert without having to drive 4 hours to Salt Lake City, UT!! Jaime "I'm a professional, eh..." -Geddy Lee ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ssimaz@thomas-puckett.com (StarScape International) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 98 17:40:49 PST Subject: Re: VISIONS Reviews >Upon reading the book, I found it ironic that a high caliber band such as >Rush would allow such juvenile, idealistic writing to be published as *the* >biography about the band. >...and... >Visions is too... hmm. Too obviously written by a groveling fan, >IMO. One too many cheesy lyrics references. Be this as it may, what other reference exists that covers the three in such detail...? And how many FAQs have been beefed-up over and over again simply from the book's info? In other words, how much would we NOT KNOW were it not for VISIONS? And I never remember the "B-Man," as he's called, making any claims to being anything other than a fan who got close...thus the tone of his book, I suspect. Yes, I agree: Too bad a serious journalist didn't have a piece of VISIONS. Although right now, 1998, might be a good year to start a definitive work, seeing as the odds of Rush being through look pretty high. Thomas Puckett Advertising, Inc. - 702.798.5300, Main - 702.798.7772, Fax ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Werner" <Chad.Werner@reliastar.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 7:27 -0600 Subject: 'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy... And I always thought it was "The pope takes up shop in the city." Gotta get my hearing checked...... Jennifer ---------------------------------------------------------- From: DblAgentX1@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:07:20 EDT Subject: A to B, Different Degree's I just noticed somthing today I though I would share with all of you. I was looking through my comic book collection (including The Defenders comic dedicated "To Alex, Neil, and Geddy of Rush, And the Rock N Roll comics featuring Rush) and I came across my Beavis and Butt-Head collection. And for the first time I noticed that Rush Counterparts was mentioned in it. Just thought I would mention it. Also I would like to second the nomination for Natalie Merchant as a female singer...I have all of the 10,000 Maniacs and Natalie solo albums...She is incredible...One last thing, For those of you interested in hearing the song "Bad Boy" that Rush played live in '74, I just made a wav. of the entire song, It has the Proffesor on the drum kit, and it is really cool. Also I noticed this thread...Water...examples... Here Again (Like a mountain river bleeding) By-Tor and the Snowdog (Across the river Styx...) Lakeside Park Into Darkness (Fording the River Dawn) There are tons more obviously, Just wanted to point out a few...Neil once commented "We come from water...the source"...I guess he want's everyone else to know ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryosuke Yasuhara <ryosuke.yasuhara@Ericsson.co.jp> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 11:03:41 +0900 Subject: Re:Athletes & Rush pt. 84-NMS#2046 To add from Japan, not only from his outfit and unique charactor, "Animal" Leslie was very well-known and good relief pitcher while he played in one of the professional baseball teams in Japan. I recall the footage through TV program that once he recorded his own song in studio wearing Rush T-shirts! Speaking of baseball player, amongst those who like baseball in Japan, Wallen Cromatie(sp?) is also very famous as good and impressive professional baseball player once played in Japan. Of course, his name can be found on the back of "Signals" cover! Ryo ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anderson, Chris " <canderso@amp.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:54:46 -0400 Subject: U2 Vs. Rush I think, long ago, like maybe two years ago *when I lurked only* someone on this list compared Rush with U2. I would like to comment on comparing these two bands and defend U2 against the attacks from a Brazilian NMSer. You can't compare these two bands to find similarities...except in one instance, these bands are BOTH true to their art, the art of music. Rush has high integrity in musicianship, technically if not emotionally. Rush is not "emotionally" saturated *IMHOP* In other words, their music nearly prefectly blends emotion and cold-calculated music...to a certain degree. Now, most of us will say U2 is none of that.....and, this is true. But, U2 has high quality musicianship in another way - they are emotionally "saturated".....every note, every lyric (in The Joshua Tree era at least) was full of soul!!! Yes, soul!! U2 always said they wanted to make soul music....well, they did!!!!! One more thing, Rush is not really associated with a religion while U2 is leaning heavily in the realms of Christianity. This is how I feel about these two bands personally. Rush's music is ridiculusly intelligent in my mind and I find a certain kind of comfort in that - their music has helped me mold a good outlook on today's society. BUT, U2 is more emotional, more searching, more "me", and more "real." I can identify with U2 because I think they believe in much the way I do myself. With Rush, I feel the lyrics are more meant for the everyday dealing with people....from other religions, etc in everyday life like at school or work (we should put religion aside at those places). U2 is, well, more sacred to me..... This isn't getting much of anywhere. Anyway, I just want to sum it all up by saying that I like U2 and I like Rush; which kind of music (and message) I like more ...well, I can say I like U2 more on the message side of things. Rush is, hands down, the BEST in musicianship!!!!! Defense of U2; Hey out there, U2 is not popful, U2 is not horrible, U2 is obviously not for you but don't shun them! Bono NEVER bad-mouths people and he (and the rest of the band) only wish the best for each and everyone on earth - not just U2 fans. Now, while I can't guarantee Bono listens to 2112 or Moving Pictures once a day, once a week, once a month or ever.....I can say that he(and U2) would say they respect Rush if they were asked what they thought of Rush (I'm sure they've heard of them). (Sorry Rush Mgr. if this post seemed kind of U2-leaning; but, I've mentioned Rush numerous times on WIRE (the U2 listserve) - I even had some good responses....oh, and U2 is like neck and neck with Rush for being my favorite band) Take care all, Chris A. ps. Just curious, are there any other U2 fans or "WIRElings" on the NMS? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Grigsby, Steve" <sgrigsby@lbgroup.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:00:00 -0500 Subject: VH1's Top 100 Hello there, I'm going to "cut to the chase". After being somewhat disappointed with the "Limelight" pop-up-video. I waited hours to see Rush finally get a little respect on VH1's Top 100 Artist/Bands of All Time, after all this one was being picked by the musicians themselves ... right? Well, unless they showed up in the top 15-30 or so (missed some of those), they didn't make it. Now, IMO, the producers of that show should be thrown to a pack of wild wolves. Let's add the host Kevin Bacon for a little flavor. I guess that as time goes by, the list will change. Only the greatest make that list ... hmm. With all due respect, Nirvanna - number 42?, and (take a deep breath) ... The Clash at #31! Even more ridiculous was Devo in the top 40, yes that's right ... Devo. OK, I'm finished complaining. On a lighter note, in response to the "Kids and Rush" post my son (26 mo. old) keeps saying "mus-mus" (music) in the car. So I turn on the radio .... "No! ... mus-mus daddy he says!". So I put on Moving Pictures and he smiles from ear to ear, and says "yes daddy mus-mus"! No kidding folks! Steve Grigsby sgrigsby@lbgroup.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "dean stahl" <dean_stahl@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:59:32 PDT Subject: A Farewell To CDs (Notice: First post in a year or so.) This is why I like to make a copy of my CDs, then play the copy and put the orginal back in it's case. Oh, and, it's perfectly legal, as long as it's for your own personal use. :) With blank CDs from $0.70-2.00 per cd, and writers as low as $250, it's become very affordable. If anyone wants a recommend, I use a Phillips CD-R (SCSI) on a Windows NT system, works like a charm. PrimeMove A.K.A Microserf Web Designer / Graphic Artist / NT and 9x-based Network Administrator Primary E-Mail: Admin@Dreamline.dynip.com Secondary E:Mail: Prime@Acmeonline.net http://www.dreamline.dynip.com "Arrg, tripped on the ethernet cable..." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Brace" <yn3@email.msn.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:04:15 -0400 Subject: Geddy's X-File Cousin Hi all-- For those who haven't seen Dean Haglund of the X-Files (playing the role of Geddy), check out this months Yahoo Magazine with Gillian Anderson on the cover. There are a couple of articles and pictures of the Lone Gunmen. I was also wondering what type of rock stations play Rush. Are they straight away classic rock, playing all pre-80's music, or are they a mixture of classic/new rock, playing classic and bands such as Alice in Chains. I've noticed that one station in town that plays classic/new rock will play any era Rush, but the Straight away classic station will play only SOR, TS and CTTH. Just wondering. Jeff ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Smith" <bacchus@azstarnet.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:17:43 -0700 Subject: my rush page Hey y'all, I have constructed a Rush web page called "Subdivisions." It's full of band info, lyrics, sound and video files, midis, tabs, et al. I'm still working on it, of course, but I can finally show what I've done to the public! Please visit: http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/ Thanks! chao, Alex Smith bacchus@azstarnet.com http://www.azstarnet.com/~bacchus/rush/ (sig deleted for rush-mgr's sake) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: KTELFamily@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:11:13 EDT Subject: re: Didacts & Narpets Jason wrote "Change the letters of Narpets and you get Parents. Didacts, coming from "didactic" (the same in French, possibly the same in Spanish?) means teachers. So Didacts & Narpets is Teachers and Parents. I hope this helps. I doubt you'll be able to translate an anagram into spanish and still make it relevant, but good luck." I would add a different spin that I read (I believe the Professor was quoted in a magazine from the 70's) that didacts= ADDICTS, you are correct on the narpets though. Cheers, Tom (The T in KTEL) "Don't ask me, I'm just improvising" ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hegemann, Ted" <Ted_Hegemann@ATK.COM> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:47:59 -0500 Subject: Aimee Mann Since we're on the subject of Aimee Mann (awhile ago)... In addition to TSS does she also sing on Open Secrets? I've never heard of her singing on any other songs but every time I hear OS I swear that I hear her voice on the "ohhhhh-ohh-ohh-ohhhh's" at about the 4:00 mark. Am I hearing correctly or do I just need to schedule an appointment with my therapist? Go Jazz -- 1 down, 3 to go! Turbo Ted "Is it an optical illusion, or does it just look like one?" My buddy Robert ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Cliff and Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@TransWestTaxi.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 01:03:00 -0600 Subject: re: Caroline's "Your own Red Barchetta" Hi all! I couldn't resist this one!!! My "red Barchetta" is actually a '95 Ford Crown Victoria! Although it's green & white instead of red, complete with meter, toplight & 12 disc cd changer:) An evening with Rush broke this in!!! See it below:) Just braggin' Pam Ps: Rush mgr-I found my stub from Moving Pictures tour & do have my TFE stub as well-want scans of them? P [ But of course! All ticket stubs are welcome at the temple of Rush... : rush-mgr ] - Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool </__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o for world peace O O "THE INTERNET" E-mail: cwheaton@TransWestTaxi.com http://www.TransWestTaxi.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Carroll/Katherine Moore <xamolleh@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 02:35:54 -0600 Subject: Visions and B-Man > I wish to make a public apology to Suzanne, aka Xanstar@aol.com, aka > oceanrush.com. I help her with the hordes of mail she gets sometimes, and I > mistakenly posted MY opinion of the book "Visions" under her screen name. As a > result, SHE received a very, VERY nasty email from someone purporting to be > Bill Banasciewicz. Karen, I wanted to post a reply to your opinion on Visions and then apparently I forgot about it. To put it briefly: You took the words right out of my mouth. I received Visions as an unexpected gift (through the mail) from a distant friend, and make no mistake, I was thrilled and blown away that such a book *existed* the first time through. Later, it became apparent that *way* too much of the book was about Banasiewicz's adventures following the band, this at the expense of more objectivity and broader scope. And the lyrical references weren't just cheese - they were *Velveeta*. I'm very curious about the purported reply from B-Man. He does a bit of whining in the book about certain interactions of his with Rush, so I wouldn't be all that surprised if it really was him. He comes off (in Visions) as a little, um... high-strung. Feel free to e-mail it to me privately - and you too, B-Man! Love to hear from ya! (heheh) Hey, we didn't say we hated the book, now, did we? Thanks for trying. Sean Carroll - xamolleh@ix.netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Dennis <pdennis1@ford.com> Date: 04 Jun 1998 07:22:52 -0400 Subject: (U) I am spending the spring/summer in Toronto and just found out that Alex is part of a concert here on June 9. It is part of the annual North by Northeast Music Festival (NXNE98). The White Ribbon Concert kicks off the eventand features the following in a benefit concert: Alex Lifeson of Rush, Jeff Martin of The Tea Party, Edwin formerly of IME, Todd Kerns of Age of Electric, Sean Verreault of Wide Mouth Mason with the house band The Dexters (famous for their Orbit Room jam sessions) as well as Colin James and other "Special Guests". The Show is at The Phoenix Concert Hall and benefits the White Ribbon Campaign, enlisting men to stop violence against women. Regards, Patrick Dennis__(pdennis1@ford.com) LVC_Cost Estimating_(p) (313) 323-0623 (f) (313) 248-9486 Oakville WIN126 Launch (p) (905) 337-4332 (f) (905) 337-4314 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: grs2 <grs2@ukc.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:52:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Rush in Norway Dear All, Don't know how many Norwegian subscribers we have on the NMS at present, but I just thought I'd let them know that the Elm Street Rock Cafe in downtown Oslo appparently plays Rush on the stereo - check it out! (The info. comes from my fiancee, who lives in Oslo, is still unconvinced that Rush are the best band in the world and prefers the Smiths!). As some of you may recall, I had posted my intention to provide an analysis of why there are no D'oh songs on Power Windows. I've now decided not to, simply because all you need to do is stick it on the CD player and you'll *know* why. Testing 4 Echoes, Greg Sanderson P.S. I don't wanna start a war or anything, but my personal opinion is that CoS is Rush's most under-rated album because it's their worst. If it wasn't for Bastille Day, that CD would never leave my CD rack. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean_M_Morrison@email.whirlpool.com (Sean M Morrison) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 08:41:12 -0400 Subject: RE:re: If You're RED your're DEAD In #2047 Dustin Clingman wrote: [The references to the Cold War in songs like "Distant Early Warning" and "Red Sector A" point to a world on the brink of nuclear holocaust and totalitarianism.] I must disagree with the point about "Red Sector A". That song is not about a world on the brink or totalitarianism. Instead, "Red Sector A" provides us with a snapshot of the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust through the eyes of a victim that is ever so close to freedom. "Are we the last ones left alive? Are we the only human beings to survive?" Interviews with Holocaust survivors revealed that when freedom did come at the end of the war, a great many believed that either they were the only survivors of the war, or that very few people were left. "For my father and my brother, It's too late. But I must help my mother Stand up straight." When freedom came, the survivors still had a great deal of dignity left. Despite their poor condition, many survivors walked out of the concentration camps through pure strength of willpower and dignity. A song such as "Red Sector A" clearly demonstrates, once again, the depths and thoughfullness that is behind most of what RUSH has produced. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "David M. Campbell" <campbell@dickinson.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Iron Maiden Iron Maiden washed up? In your opinion, of course. Have you heard the new album, Virtual XI? It's actually a return to form for them, after X Factor where they were finding their way with a new singer. Iron Maiden will never be washed up, as long as they continue to write albums and tour. I don't think the departure of Adrian was a big problem for them...they were very successful before he ever joined, and his direction was never in the Maiden tradition anyway. He was an excellent songwriter and guitarist, and contributed a lot to their late 80's sound, however. Up the Irons! Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Teebagy, Steve, BMG - Boston" <Steve.Teebagy@bmge.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:54:25 -0500 Subject: B-MAN CONFUSION!! I'd just like to add my 5 cents on this whole B-Man confusion. A close friend of mine is personal friends with Bill and through him I have met Bill myself and the whole Hold Your Fire thing is a crock!! He never did anything like that. It's a bad rumor. I've heard this sraight from Bill himself. "Why would I do something foolish like that", Bill said. He had a great relationship with Alex and Neil but more so with Geddy. They were pretty close friends. Bill in short said the reason he & Rush no longer communicate is something personal that he won't share with anyone, and has nothing to do with some leaking of Hold Your Fire to radio. As far as Visions II goes , I agree with someone who posted that Neil should be the one to do it!!! TEBO ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Ward Ruth <moneyerone@enter.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:39:43 -0400 Subject: Re: 06/02/98 - The National Midnight Star #2045 > From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> > Date: Fri, 29 May 98 8:07:29 EDT > Subject: Updated Visions book > > When the band was getting ready to release Hold Your Fire they had a.llowed > B-man to preview > it and he took it upon himself to leak it out to his radio audience > without the bands permission. In short B-man blew it and will not be > authorised to do an updated book by the band. I always wondered what happened to the B-man. I heard the radio show that you are referring to. In his book he mentioned some of the shows I was at and also the petition to play in Philadelphia back around 1978. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Max MacPherson <mmacpher@zoo.uvm.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: In vain to search for HONOR Hey everyone! >Who Knows? Maybe Red is Neils Favorite >Color. Maybe. All of the "red" songs made in mine too a while back. >No way these are my shorts ... these bend. > David Lister >I'm really getting good at this lying mode. > Kryten Wow! Another Red Dwarf fan out there. I love that MARVELOUS show! I have every episode up to series VII on tape. >The 2112th issue should be a compilation of all the posts that contain >suggestions about what the 2112th issue should contain. Boy! That would be a rather lengthy issue! Now to my main point. For all you Madrigal fans out there, does the line go "in vain to search for Order, or i v t s f Honor? The lyrics say order, but listening to the song, it sounds more like honor. Also, as you may have guessed, I just got the remastered AFTK as well as MP and P/G. I have had the hemispheres album for about a year now, and listening to Cygnus X-1, book 1, and then listening to hemispheres, is really an amazing experience. Cx1 seems to enhance Book II more that if Book II were to be listened to alone. Also, you can hear heartbeats at the end of the song very faintly. Max MacPherson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Whiteman@appliedreasoning.com (David Whiteman) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:20:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Hold Your Fire through Power Windows (#2048) > I, just yesterday, purchased the remastered HYF CD, and it holds one of my > (now) favorite Rush songs, "Time Stand Still." Anyway, I couldn't help > getting a kick out of the pun "hold your fire" (which would usually mean > "don't shoot"), and the picture of the man juggling the flaming balls > inside the CD liner. Then I noticed that the far left window on the > building behind the man was open and had a couple of televisions, just > like the room the kid on Power Windows is sitting > in. At least now we know what he was looking at, but I really don't think he > needed the binoculars. So I want to know, does Rush do this a lot? Have > connections between different album's covers/CD liners? Also, that picture includes the fire hydrant from Signals, and the clock over the restaurant is set to 21:12. Who knows whether those newspapers on the front steps have "Dewei Defeats Truman" on them or why the Statue of Liberty is in the top right window of the restaurant building? I know this has been discussed before (maybe in the FAQ), but I'm not sure of the other album connections here. (I think the 15 signifies the 15th album of Rush) I guess this all would be easier to see on a large record album instead of a small CD booklet. :-) If you haven't noticed already, there are lots of references on Exit Stage Left as well. [ If I'm not mistaken, the FAQ has a ton of things you can find in the HYF picture... : rush-mgr ] David - *********************************************************************** David Whiteman Applied Reasoning Warning: Contains Aspartame 111 Corning Road, Suite 220 whiteman at AppliedReasoning.com Cary, NC 27511-9231 ICQ# 12178974 919-851-7677 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3261 http://www.AppliedReasoning.com *********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilson, Daniel" <WilsonD@pbworld.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:23:10 -0400 Subject: Iron Maiden Time sigs... In TNMS bytor@lanset.com wrote: >> Ive noticed a few descrepancies on this statement: >> Losfer Words is written in 6/4 (or 12/8 depending on how you look at it) >> The Duellists is also in 6/4 (12/8) >> And in the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, right before the slow bass / >> narrative part, the time signature changes from 4/4 to 6/4 (12/8), I >> think it changed back to 4/4 and then back to 6/4 (12/8) and then back >> to 4/4 at the end of the song... I'll have to find my notes to tell you ****I don't listen to Iron Maiden, but 6/4 and 12/8 are entirely different. Music does not translate fractions like math. 12/8 is a triple pattern group as 123 456 789 101112 which is often counted in 4/4 where three eighth notes get the beat, more like 6/8 123 456. 6/4 is literally 6 quarternotes to a measure and is duplex meaning that two eighth notes get the beat, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Like I said, I don't listen to Iron Maiden, but they are probably playing in 12/8 because it is more common, and 6/4 is usually reserved for slow art song type passages....not very popular in any of your "electric band" type of music (meaning anything besides orchestral, some jazz, and "band" (schools)music) Not saying that it has never been used, it is just not as widely used. If it has a triplet feel, it is 12/8 if it is just 6 quarters per measure, it is 6/4. What Rush does so well, is alternate back and forth between triple meters and duplex meters, anyone can play entire passages in different time signatures, it's the switching that makes it unique. A lot of metal bands do this, so I'm sure it runs wild in Iron Maiden songs, which is good, it marks musicianship. Think of Zeppelin's "The Ocean". That is a prime example of a song that switches back and forth between meters. It gets really interesting when you break away from meters based on 2 3 or 4 like 5/8 and 7/8 which have long beats vs. short beats ala "Natural Science" 12 12 123 12 12 123 or 12 34 567 12 34 567. Not flaming here, it's just that Music Education Degree rearing its ugly head, couldn't let the meters go by. ******************************************************* Danny Wilson (301)998-6620 wilsond@pbworld.com ******************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Borasky, Dave" <Dave_Borasky@DENTISTRY.UNC.EDU> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:32:09 -0400 Subject: He's too busy > From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> > Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:29:40 -0700 > Subject: fakes? > > Anyone heard from Mike Bahr at ALL? I've been waiting most of a > year for E2E and haven't heard from him in weeks. Mike says he is swamped with a backlog of emails. (I am #192 for E2E) Don't mind the fact that he constantly has time to read and post on alt.music.rush! Too bad he puts out an excellent product, it really takes the edge off one's bitching ;-) Dave At least we can get a "Darkeness and Light" discount!!! TREY D. - - - DID YOU GET YOUR CHAPEL HILL INFO IN THE MAIL?????? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: N <nkeg@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:28:27 +0100 Subject: A Rush EP? Hi All! Something's been buggn' me. I swear to God that I remember seeing a = Rush EP of Signals that contained only 4 songs (one I think was a live = cut...). Does anyone know about it? Any info? Album ID? Is it even = in print? Or was I suffering from 'brain fade'. Let me know. ~ = Nichoals ---------------------------------------------------------- From: GM&C <graphics@firstnethou.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 02:13:58 -0500 Subject: Addicts and Parents Did I hear this here, or is it in the FAQ, or is this just some tidbit I heard somewhere? I saw the FAQ and the thread earlier about this, but no one has mentioned it as of the latest thread and I don't know where I got this but...(am I rambling yet?) didacts = addicts narpets = parents Addicts & Parents.... Barking commanding voices shouting almost inaudible demands between wild percussive and violent measures finishing with an provoking and ironic, "LISTEN!" just wondering where i heard this or did I make it up, I don't think so. Your thoughts rush-mgr? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: denimking@juno.com (z z z) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:03:15 -0500 Subject: rush = alternative, warcraft 2 >I will second COS as the most underrated Rush album. I would also like >to add that I think COS is the definition of alternative rock. Not that >canned 'alternative' crap they play on stations around the country >today; true alternative rock. Release that album in 1992 and it's all >over the college stations. i heartily agree, if rush re-release a few of their albums they could really put themselves in the "LImelight." in omaha, one of my friend's acquaintances(?) bought T4E a month or two after it was released because of the cover, and he hadn't heard of them (he thought they were a new band!) suppose Rush released, say Spirit of the Radio, Tom Sawyer, A Farewell to Kings, Working Man, and What You're Doin' as singles (with the re-release of the albums hot on their heals) and put some $ into advertising them? maybe (gasp) a "modern" music video for the songs, some t-shirts, and a few television appearances... they'd make it big on the music scene in a blink of an eye. if there are people that actually listen to hanson (eww..... ::shudder::), spice girls and other crap like that, they must be really desperate for good music. another thing about the warcraft 2 codes concerning rush: you may be right about "hatchet axe and saw," but i hadn't heard THAT code until a couple of months ago. because the code is just "hatchet," but it could just be that they shortened it because it was too long. of course, if they shortened that, why not the cars' "every little thing she does?" think about it adam "If at first you don't succeed, it's probably someone else's fault." ---------------------------------------------------------- From: N <nkeg@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:18:46 +0100 Subject: RE: My Red Barchetta The song goes great with my Red Ducati 900sp ! (Except when it rains! = Then I take my red Jeep Wrangler. :) ) Any other 2 wheeled riders out = there? What are you riding today? And what Rush song stick in your mind = while you are riding. You know... the song that you only know the = chorus of so you have to sing it over and over in your helmet until it = goes away. (I think its called 'Musicosis'. <smile>). ----------------------------------------------------------
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