The National Midnight Star #1998

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@yyz.com Subject: 03/27/98 - The National Midnight Star #1998
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Hey A second guitarist Re: Wedding Songs Re: "heys" on 2112 Song lyrics Rush Rumors Geddy Syncing (none) Rush played at my wedding - Bravado Wedding song thanks REAL RUSH THREADS Re: Geddy's basses Re:KAR-RUSHSECSOC a song I'd like to hear Rush cover... Re: Geddy's basses rush songs at a Wedding and Billy Falcon RE: Moving Pictures cover My lists (this time they're legible!) Rush Blooper Highly Publicized Fanatical Society of Frequently Posting Rush Fans re: strange days Re: 03/26/98 CARESS OF STEEL 3 Quick Ones you don't say.... Song Lyrics ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mark irwin <mirwin1@flash.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:37:15 +0000 Subject: Re: 03/25/98 - The National Midnight Star #1995 Also thought some of you may find this interesting. I know everyone knows about "The Defenders" comic dedicated to Rush. But if you pick up the first 7 issues of "Astro City", you will see little Rush icons sprinkled throughout the pages. And if you pick up the latest issue of "Wizard-The Guide to Comics", you will see a picture of me! with a copy of the caricature I drew of Alex for A Show of Fans. Except it's in color! Issue 81, May 1998. Yes, it's a little self-promotional, but it's still about Rush, right? We just found a way to get them exposed to comic fans, that's all... Mark Irwin mirwin1@flash.net (the Alex picture is hanging above my desk- and, yes- I am posing.) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mark irwin <mirwin1@flash.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:46:45 +0000 Subject: Re: 03/25/98 - The National Midnight Star #1995 One last thing- the "Little Drummer Boy" on 'Merry Axemas'. Is Alex one of the most underappreciated musical geniuses ever? This is a tasteful little ditty. Totally in control, lean, and savory. I think the thing I appreciate the most about Alex is that he can wail like Eddie Van Halen or Eric Johnson, but has poured his efforts into becoming a piece of a 3-d puzzle, not an accompanying solo pretender. If you listen to "Caress of Steel", my all-time favorite album, you'll see what chops and licks and vibrato and arpeggios and all those other guitar terms this guy has. But Rush is a group, and while they all exceed expectations as individuals, as a whole they "are a genius". Check out "Merry Axemas". It's well worth the investment. Mark Irwin mirwin1@flash.net p.s. anybody out there like Matthew Sweet? [ Yup sure do! :-) : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:42:52 -0800 Subject: musicians I'm amazed at the number of Impellitterri and Malmsteen fans on this list. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, I guess. I say Yngwie in Danville, IL, trying to impress the crowd by throwing his guitar over his shoulder. At one point, his wireless transmitter came loose and flew across the stage, shattering. The concert stopped for 45 minutes while they found someone to open a guitar store and get him a cord. The rest of the performance was subdued. Lousy profesionalism on stage. His playing is technically flawless, and totally lacking in emotion, IMO. Just an opinion. I've only heard one Imp album, and he sounded like a cheap clone of Yngwie. Has he anything recent? I'd be willing to give him another listen. Has Geddy's leukemia and throat cancer been cured? I heard that was why he was so skinny. About 15 years ago. And Bryan Adams was dying of AIDS ten years ago. And the boys are heavily into coke, too, and have several women on the road. Why do people dream up these rumors? And why do other people believe them? mike "It's amazing the things a believer has to disbelieve in in order to be a believer." http://www.2112.net/daggers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:47:50 -0800 Subject: initiates >mrfranklin@CCGATE.HAC.COM writes: >Jen writes.. >>>><< I never saw it this way, but it is a nice idea: Let us pray to >>>>beautyful young (and naked?) women. But we also need virgins, a lot >>>>of virgins for the rituals........Where are the virgins? >> >>I'm a virgin, and not yet a member of the Secret Society. Anyone care >>to initiate me? ;) <<< >Yowzah! I'd love to help Jen. Unfortunately Julien is the only one who >can "initiate" new recruits. Also the initiation is not what you might >think. Although I cannot tell you directly what is involved (it is a >secret society, you know) I can tell you it involves a branding iron, >kung pao chicken, the C++ programming language, and a yak. WHAT?!?!?! no cream cheese and scorpions?!?!?! SACRILEGE! mike http://www.2112.net/daggers ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mark irwin <mirwin1@flash.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:05:32 +0000 Subject: Re: 03/25/98 - The National Midnight Star #1996 Okay, my final posting of the night. Favorite position players. center: Bill Russell, Robert Parish, Wilt Chamberlain power forward: Kevin McHale, ooh. Wrong list Guitar:Alex, Andy Summers, John Petrucci, Robert Quine(Matthew Sweet), Marty Friedman, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Woody Weatherman(CoC) Bass: Geddy, Paul McCartney, John Entwistle, Dave Ellefson, Matthew Sweet, Sting, John Myung, Eddie Jackson Drums: Neil, Scott Rockenfield, Mike Portnoy, Tommy Aldridge, Keith Moon, Stewart Copeland, John Bonham, Nick Menza Okay! I think I've stayed up late enough! Mark Irwin mirwin1@flash.net "...I need someone to pull the trigger..." Matthew Sweet ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:31:28 GMT0BST Subject: Everything Just a few hundred points raised. 1. I should like to apologise to everyone for torching Presto. I had another listen, in a darkened room, with a glass of Chivas Regal. Okay. Mea culpa. 2. Analog Kid didn't seem to get my point about Rush songs for a wedding - call it old world man irony 3. This "not Rush musicians we like listening to" thread can be reduced to a few basics. We all listen to Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson etc, plus Pearl Jam - I bet they did not get their name the way Rush are alleged to - Queensryche, plus some jazz stuff. Quelle surpirise. If anyone cares, I'm listening to Copland, the new Elgar unfinished, John Tavener, Rush etc. As far as great musicians go, no one lays down a lute line quite like Couperin, and that includes Alex on Rivendell. And don't flame me, but I love the Waterboys. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trent Winchester" <icing_man@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:06:59 PST Subject: Apologizing in advance I received an angry email this morning from a gentleman in Wales by the name of Mark Hancock. Mark and I had attempted to trade some material via mail. He was generous enough to send a copy of one of the TFE Toronto shows. In return I sent him tapes of several boots. Unfortunately this exchange occurred during our Canadian postal strike and his material never made it to him. My video did eventually come to me, though. I sent a second set of tapes and did not here from him one way or another. This morning he informed me that he was still waiting. He mentioned that he would post to NMS to 'warn' folks about what a bad person I am. Thought I would try to get my side of the story in first so as not to be on the defensive. I have met several people through NMS and have had no problems at all if we decided to swap info or goods of any kind. I was able to get great seats for the Toronto show through NMS. I was then able to sell my extra tickets through NMS (hey Pete!) all with no trouble on either side. I have developed a very close relationship with a particular NMS'er and have even visited them and their family. We swap tapes, videos and grits regularly. So, sorry Mark. I am in the midst of sending yet a 3rd copy to you. I apologize for Canada Post and our good friends at Canada Customs. All you had to do was ask. Not point fingers. Trent Winchester ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "DR PAUL SMITH" <Paul.Smith@nottingham.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:34:46 GMT0BST Subject: Spinal Tap meets Rush Spinal Tap I think that Rush and a host of other bands who were doing the 'concept' thing in the seventies were all implicated in Spinal Tap... but the disintegrating band and the trouble with Dave St Hubbins' girlfriend were pure Black Sabbath (by the way, listen to early Sabs, Led Zep and the first Rush album and play spot the difference). Also the bass player, Derek Smalls, seems to me to be a deadringer for Geezer Butler (Sabs). Others see UFO in there, so you pays your money and you takes your choice. By the way, for lovers of metal spoofs, check out Bad News and More Bad News - exquisite send up of the late seventies NWOBHM - New Wave of British Heavy Metal (Saxon, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Tygers of Pan Tang...) While I think of it, the band I have heard which sounded most like Rush were a group which came out of the British progressive rock outbreak of circa 1982 (Marillion, Pallas, Twelfth Night) called Trilogy, only in this group the lead guitarist doubled as keyboards man. I've got a demo somewhere, but I can't play it to you can I? Oh, and finally, really, if you thought Ged's voice was, er, strange, check out the lead singer of Budgie. I love this With apologies for the spurious NP message to British fans Well, gotta go pick up the wife now. Man o man. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:46:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Lyrics << I know the majority of us love each and every Rush song for its brillance in music and lyrics. A lot is posted about a favorite solo or Instrumental etc.. but not as much emphasis is put on the lyrics.How about your top ten Rush songs in terms of the lyrics. >> Even better, here's how differently I see the lyrics to some of these songs: >1.Subdivisions- We all can relate to our growing up with this song. I can't. I grew up in the inner city, and I feel that this tune refers to suburban teens. I was busier trying to stay alive, unraped, and out of gangs than worrying about anything this song mentions. But I love it nontheless. >2.The Pass- A beautiful reminder that life has both its ups and downs. When I was suicidal, this was one of four songs that helped pull me back from that brink. Just hearing that "What have you done?" made me realize truly what I was contemplating. Hearing this takes me back to that time, and helps me never to think like that again. The rest I agree with. Unfortunately I'm writing this from work and don't have my CDs here, otherwise I'd mention a few more songs that have special meaning for me. Might do that tomorrow, if all hell doesn't break loose here like it usually does on Friday at 4:25 pm (I leave at 4:30). And yes, I'm one of those people who find special meaning in lyrics... I'll never understand folks who get irritated by that. My boyfriend's one, and I have to be careful not to mention it around him... yet he's got the 2112 cover tattoed on his arm! Talk about special meaning...! Until next time, Suze == Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> "Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car." :-D ---------------------------------------------------------- From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 12:55:00 EST Subject: A Show of Fans Has anyone received any issues from "A Show of Fans" this year ? I subscribed back in January and have yet to recieve anything.It looks like a worthwhile fanzine, from their web page display.What have other subscribers experiences been like with "A Show of Fans" ? Any info on what to expect from "A show of Fans" would be appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Slim Jim <jg@ms.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:28:37 +0000 Subject: straight ahead >>>>> "Sergio Escalona" writes: > Well, it's usually been the same with most Rush albums hasn't it? The > thing is that probably most people were expecting a straight ahead > party-rock-band type of album, and with Rush we're always wondering what > the hell are they going to come up with the next time, which is, imho, > great. I'm surprised to read this.. as far as I can see, Rush's direction has pretty much been straight-ahead, mainstream, corporate rock, since Presto. Sometimes it's well written and enjoyable, like T4E, sometimes it's very bad indeed (IMO), like Counterparts, but nowhere is there a hint of the inspiration or sense of adventure of the late seventies /early eighties, these days. I don't think they're interested in establishing a new direction or breaking new ground anymore. I think they're content now to stay within the profitable, safe boundaries of mainstream rock music, which is why "The Camera Eye" sounds so much more distinctive than (say) "Virtuality". By the way, to the idiot who flamed me for asserting that the Police split up more than five years after "de do da da", claiming that they ended effectively in 1984, you may be interested to know that they went into the studio to record an (aborted) album in 1986. Slim ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Gray <bigearl@ARCHES.UGA.EDU> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:02:16 -0500 () Subject: Rush sighting on the NMS... Did anybody else notice that one of the posts in #1995, "The English Pub", was sent in by "Neil Peart <npeart@anthemsro.com>"? I'm guessing that that wasn't really _the_ Neil Peart, because 1) the content of the post suggested that the author had been reading the NMS fairly faithfully (fess up, rush-mgr! IS NEIL A SUBSCRIBER???); and 2) that sort of thing just doesn't happen, it just doesn't. [ It wasn't Neil folks, just someone posing as him. : rush-mgr ] In fact, since nobody said anything about this in #1996, I'm guessing that everyone else came to the same conclusion. What I wanna know is: How was that done? How does one manipulate what the recipient of an email sees in the "from" window? Is this just some bunghole with the same name, perhaps an Anthem or SRO employee? Is someone at Anthem/SRO (or a server _named_ "anthemsro", perhaps for this very purpose) yanking our chain? Did the rush-mgr fabricate this post just to wake us up? Is it even remotely possible that Neil really did break both cover and character and post to the NMS (mmmph! heehee)? And why did "Guitar for the Practicing Musician" pick the song "Ceremony" to transcribe off Joe Satriani's new album "Crystal Planet", when there are so many superior _and_ more instrumentally interesting songs on the same disc? (sorry) Alex R. Gray, bigearl@arches.uga.edu smisrp@www.cba.uga.edu "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it?" - Ford Prefect, "The HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams oh, and a (ahem) message for Rush SexSock members only: "Aaaagh! I think my spleen ran off during the night!" further bulletins as events warrant... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:15:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: OT; pardon me for *just* one moment... >Ryan Joseph King said: > And what would your wife/husband think if you >put in some cheese like Madrigal. If your going >to play Rush, at least play some that has some >balls so people don't think you're a fag or >lesbian. I missed this the first time around, and good fucking thing too. I probably would have gone ballistic and gotten myself kicked off the list by Rush-Mgr (my apologies on this post to you anyway). It was bad enough to spot it in a reply and have to take a few deep breaths before I was unable to resist making this reply. (Visualize Tom Hanks in "A League of Their Own" as he tries not to SCREAM at the outfielder who threw wild during the Series:) Mr. King, you are welcome to any point of view that floats your boat. But it would be most kind of you to NOT subject others (namely, ME) to your homophobic rantings and ravings. Perhaps you can find a list for homophobes and vent your spleen there? You know, be among others "of your own kind". Perhaps you should listen to some Rush lyrics. Try "Nobody's Hero". (See, I kept it *kinda* on topic...) This is all I'll say on the subject; I won't go on and on; no more OT about it. I would have posted this directly to Mr. King only I don't have his Email address. Now, how's that for a polite not-quite-flame? Gritting teeth in anticipation of possible reply (just make it private 'cause I won't reply here)-- Suze == Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> "Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car." :-D ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:26:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Ahhh well, it was worth a *try*... Hehe, I fell for it. I tried to post a msg to <npeart@anthemsro.com> and it bounced back; no such host. (You can't fool a computer tech who can read all that crap in a bounced Email.) So if it really was you, Neil, thanks for the brief fantasy of a long, meaningful Email relationship... <VBG> Suze -feeling terribly silly after a long, bad week in the trenches of the IS department doing Year 2000 upgrades on ungrateful machines-- == Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> "Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car." :-D ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilson, Daniel" <WilsonD@pbworld.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:25:03 -0500 Subject: Hey Kudos to everyone on the list! the last two have had pretty good Rush content. I didn't mean for my first few post to be so brazen. Anyway- In response to Caress Of Steel, I agree about Geddy doing some of his best singing on this album. I haven't listened lately, so I can't comment on if his "worst" is also prevalent. I just love the sound of "They bow defeated" (waayyy 70's rock voice) I love Nec. and Lamneth but I think fans would have had a better reaction if they appeared on separate albums. Overall, I think it's the most underrated album (although Presto and HYF have come under attack lately). For the HYF dis-likers, listen to the Bass. Not out front and hard to hear, but some of Geddy's best stuff is on HYF and Power Windows. Listen for it close, he hides some great stuff. I too am getting married this year, and have been working Rush into my fiancé's palette. She now makes a game at guessing song titles and trying to match it with albums (she gets excited when she gets it right...very cute) As for Rush at the wedding, I joked about how I was going to play a bunch of non-wedding stuff at our reception (using Warrant's cherry pie and Def Lepards pour some sugar on me as jokes) and she told me that she wants Rush played because it is part of me and that she feels it is important. I don't know what song(s), but I'm not looking for just romantic or slow, I think too many people are looking at this question from a bride and groom first dance type thing, and I don't think that is what was ment by the original poster. One last question....I've always wondered why magazines and books have always refereed to early Rush as very Led Zeppelin-like. I'm an avid fan of both groups and own the entire (commercially) recorded library of both groups and have NEVER understood this comparison. If someone could point me to the Rush song that sounds inspired by Zep, let me in on the secret! AGAIN, incase people are not reading...I love both groups and I admire the talents of all the members and I'm well aware of Zep being around longer, Bonham's great....yada yada yada (this post is flame retardant for my safety) I just don't hear the connection that seems so relevant to the critics! Sorry for the long post Danny Wilson wilsond@pbworld.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: greg cormier <cormier_greg@isus.emc.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 14:29:19 EST Subject: A second guitarist A lot of bands benefit from having two guitar players ,along with the ususal rhythm section of bass and drums.If Rush were ever to have a two guitar lineup who would you pick to be that second guitarist ? consider the players style and personality before determining who the lucky one will be. For me it would be Andy Summers, formerely of the Police. He uses a lot more harmonics than Alex but it would fit in well and the two would complement each other.Personality wise he is a little zany at times which again would complement Alex's style. I would be interted in hearing who others pick for their second guitarist. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Son <bobo@takeoff.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:05:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Wedding Songs OK: Here are my pics for Rush wedding tunes: 1. By-Tor and the Snow Dog (done polka style with accordian and all) 2. All of Caress of Steel (with Barbra Striesand doing lead vocals) 3. Cygnus X-1 (Done lounge style...) 4. Tai Shan (Sepultura providing death-metal interpretation) ummm...that the best for now...more when I think of 'em...heh:) Peace:) Daniel ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Son <bobo@takeoff.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:14:13 -0800 Subject: Re: "heys" on 2112 I've seen every tour since PermWaves, and I believe between Moving Pictures and Signals, this started. If I remeber correctly (it was a few years ago...heh:) Ged "prompted" the audience with his usual stage antics. (ie. fist up in the air..etc) Anyways, if anybody else has other info, please share... Daniel ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phelan" <eric@dbsa.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:24:11 -0500 Subject: Song lyrics Songs that have the best lyrical meaning? Hmmm....for me, I would have = to go with Red Sector A and Time Stand Still...two KICK ASS tunes IMO. = Whenever I hear em I just wanna crank that volume dial...alas, i cant :( = (damn neighbors) It just...moves me I suppose. Red Sector A conjures up images of a Nazi = prison camp...and the song itself is incredibly complex. Time Stand = Still just really gets to me..I LOVE that song :) Id also have to go with Manhattan Project and The Trees and Tai Shan "Now I Lay me down in dream land, I know perfects not for real" = DoIReallyHaveToSay? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:35:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Rush Rumors <<So, what is the basis for this rumor that he has cancer or is it true?? I have heard so many conflicting viewpoints and explanations I finally just deceided to ask the list. >> I hadn't heard that one before. My favorite was always "Geddy has throat cancer"; that one panicked me right before the release of RTB. When that album came out, I ignored any other rumors. Now I read the FAQs or check here. Suze == Suze Jackson-Lequire <suzejack@yahoo.com> "Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car." :-D ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Ware" <Daniel.Ware@enmu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:39:43 -0700 Subject: Geddy Syncing Hey gang.. Read with interest the post about Geddy doing some Syncing at an early Dallas show during the CP tour. I don't seem to remember that. I was at the first Dallas show. I think it was only the second show of the tour. I remember Geddy had to really reach down to hit some of the high notes, esp. on Analog Kid, but don't remember him singing 20 feet away from the mic. Not flaming here, just don't remember anything like that. Had pretty good seats too. Nick Hocky arena!!! Cheers from NM Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- From: hej@meditech.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:33 -0500 Regarding Geddy getting bagged while synching to "Double Agent", he must have completely abandoned the effort when I saw the Counterparts tour because he just let the tape do the talking, just like the rap in "Roll the Bones". Speaking of that, during the last tour, the "Roll the Bones" video/rap got jammed for a second midway through. It righted itself on an off-beat, but the boys played right through it perfectly. Lyrically, I'm a big fan of the "Fear" trilogy, "The Trees", "Losing It", and my all-time favorite Rush tune, "Natural Science". eleven daigle (the new long, lost brother) NP: Foma-The Nixons ---------------------------------------------------------- From: jca@stateside.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:56:10 -0800 Subject: Rush played at my wedding - Bravado It wouldn't have been possible to have a wedding without playing Rush. I thought Bravado was cool and people actually slow danced to it. - * These are the days of staccato signals of constant information * Reply to jcadams@erols.com Mark your bookmarks ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Pullman <j.pullman@csu-e.csuohio.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:57:02 -0500 Subject: Wedding song thanks Hello, I just want to thank those who have been positive about a recent thread I proposed concerning playing RUSH at a wedding. My intention was just to see what songs other folks would feel appropriate for such an occasion. I believe Mar hit the mark with her comments in NMS #1997. I too am a fan (some may say FANatic) and find it a fitting way to celebrate. Besides, my friends would be shocked if I DIDN'T play a RUSH song. Take Care and keep the suggestions flowing, John Pullman ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Sadlers <cjs@ici.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:05:15 +0000 Subject: REAL RUSH THREADS I have noticed that many material on this list is un-rush-related, or in shorter terms: URR-CRAP! I am angry about the crap about wedding songs, fav drummers other then neil, and the worst of them all; favorite other bands then RUSH. I have also gotten e-mail frommany others with theie flame throwers ready on the URR-CRAP. I will try to hold your fire by asking if people could come up with some real rush threads. For example: What do you think oare some the most inspirational songs by Rush, like ones that just bring a smile on your face no matter what: (Mine would be either SPIRIT OF RADIO or EVERYDAY GLORY) If you don't like this thread come up with some more. Maybe some of us can Hold Our Fire for a bit longer. PS Lets also get some more news in this list. (Live Album) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tyler <jatyler@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:20:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Geddy's basses Hi all, Hey cool another equipment question, Have I pissed anyone off yet (let the flames begin!) To answer Christopher Palo's question Geddy was using a Wal bass. They are made in England and are about as far from a Fender as you can get. They have two humbucking pickups and a longscale neck that runs through the body on most models. They are expensive and hard to find in the states. That's all for now, John A. Tyler P.S.--- (That's not all actually!) Julien is hilarous, everyone really should get a sense of humor. JT ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeffrey Robinson" <Tefe@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:38:00 -0500 Subject: Re:KAR-RUSHSECSOC "Michael Z. Williamson" <daggers@indy.net> wrote "Bring your Fender basses, Gibson Guitars, and Slingerland drums,..." Don't you realize that Neil has been using Drum Workshop drums, and not slingerland. Old number one was retired, remember. Sorry for the nit-picking, but...and I know someone else already mentioned this... Shouldn't a secret society be a SECRET? Anyway, Happy Drumming, Jeff Robinson ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeffrey Robinson" <Tefe@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:42:48 -0500 Subject: a song I'd like to hear Rush cover... I don't think Rush should do any cover songs, but if they did... I'd love to hear them cover Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf. Anyway, Happy Drumming, Lambda Chi Alpha Rules, Jeff Robinson P.S. Are there any other Lambda Chi's on the NMS mailing list? Just curious. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Bruels <nickb@teleport.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:37:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Geddy's basses > From: "Palo, Christopher John" <R093@ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU> > Subject: Geddy's basses [...] > Hey everyone! Got a question for anyone who knows the answer. What > bass did Geddy use on GUP, in particular, "The Body Electric?" I know > that mine (an old, old Fender) sounds nothing like it so I thought it > might be a Rickenbacker (however you spell that), but I have had no > experience with that type of bass so I have no point of comparison. > Please respond personally. Personally, it was a Steinberger. I nearly pooped a brick when I first saw Ged playing what I had thought was just a new-wave fad bass. Then I played one myself, and absolutely loved it. I didn't buy one though. I remember it being very easy to really fly on the fingerboard, great action for some reason. The drawback is that you have to stand while playing it. I think Geddy did some pretty good equalization with his Steinberger, since it sounded much more rich on GUP than I could make it sound in real life. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris E. Anderson" <chanders@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:37:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: rush songs at a Wedding and Billy Falcon Power windows by Billy Falcon??? I have not heard that song in years!!!! Can anybody out there help me in finding a copy of the album "Pretty blue World" ( I think that's the title) I heard it's out of print. BTW, "Tears' is a great song to slide in during the Slow Dance part, especially if the bride and groom are both Rush fans. I know I will try to get it in, as long as my future wife (wherever she is) lets me. later, Thor ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Joel Shawstad <shawstaj@uwwvax.uww.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:04:21 Subject: RE: Moving Pictures cover >From: Steven Trautman <strautman@taascforce.com> > >And on a lighter/accenting, not heavy/forefront note: > >>From: KSal467459 <KSal467459@aol.com> >>Subject: Rush album covers >>>>>What does the cover of Grace Under Pressure symbolize? > >I don't know either. While we're at it, though, I want to >add the question of what the cover of Moving Pictures >symbolizes. It's a "moving" picture of guys moving "moving" pictures. :) ************************************************************************* Joel Shawstad Reply-To: shawstaj@mail.uww.edu University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Phone: (414) 472-4861 Technology & Information Resources Fax: (414) 472-5727 ************************************************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas" <rthomas@netusa1.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:07:52 -0600 Subject: My lists (this time they're legible!) Sorry, last time I posted this, it was all screwed up, 'cuz I tried to have a short post by saving space. So, here it is, fixed and a little longer. Here are my versions of some of the lists that seem to have been coming up lately (in no particular order): Favorite Drummers | Currently in & out of my stereo ------------------------------+------------------------------------------ Neil Peart | Grammatrain -- "Lonely House" Paul Roraback | Grammatrain -- "Flying" Carter Beauford | Guardian -- "Bottle Rocket" Chester Thompson | Guardian -- "Buzz" Paul Mumaw | Phil Keaggy -- "Blue" Bruce Spencer | MxPx -- "Teenage Politics" Yuri Ruley (not that | ROASTER -- "Demo #1" great, just fast) | Ghoti Hook -- "Banana Man" | The Waiting -- "The Waiting" Fav. RUSH Albums | Rose Blossom Punch -- "Ephemere" ---------------------------- | Audio Adrenaline -- "bloOm" Exit...Stage Left | RUSH -- "Retrospective I" Caress of Steel | RUSH -- "Chronicles" 2112 | Havalina Rail Co. -- "Russian Lullabies" All the World's a Stage| Genesis -- "Live: The Way We Walk Test for Echo | Vol. 2 -- The Longs" Moving Pictures | Fav. Non-RUSH Albums ---------------------------------- Grammatrain -- "Flying" MxPx -- "Teenage Politics" Five Iron Frenzy -- "Our Newest Album Ever!" MxPx -- "Life in General" Soulfood 76 -- "Velour (Retrospective)" The 77's -- "Tom Tom Blues" Eric Clapton -- "24 Nights" Grammatrain -- "Lonely House" There they are: my lists. Love 'em, hate 'em, whatever. They're my opinion. If you have anything to say about 'em, feel free. I tried to conserve space, too, so I hope no gets mad about my long post. CT - "So long ago I drew a line for myself in the sand, time after time I moved it when I crossed it again and again.." -- MIKE ROE "The difference between dying today and dying tomorrow: we all prefer tomorrow." -- COOLIDGE ROASTER: http://roaster.base.org/ <--------------- GO THERE!! (Website Beautification Project Coming Soon) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Haag" <jhaag@ballyfitness.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:17:52 -0500 Subject: Rush Blooper on the RTB tour RUSH played Merriweather Post Pavillion on 6/19/92, Neil = tripped climbing out of his drum kit after Tom Sawyer. I remember he was = fine for the encore! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan 'Max' Dobberstein" <bmaxd@anet-stl.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:17:05 -0600 Subject: Highly Publicized Fanatical Society of Frequently Posting Rush Fans Or, HPFSFPRF for short. I would like to welcome you all to the new not very secret rush organization. Our goals are noble. We will, as a group, fly to Canada, kidnap Neil, Geddy and Alex. We will then force them to tell us, in comlete detail about their family histories, health and real names. We will then take them to offices of Anthem where we will make them pull out absolutely every recording they ever made and play them for us. We will them put Rush on a very rigid schedule. Once a year, for two months, they will record. The rest of the year will be spent touring and/or having dinner at the houses of HPFSFPRF members. Well I think it is a good idea. :p Max ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Branham <branhacc@SLU.EDU> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:35:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: re: strange days Scott Chase < anthym@webtv.net > writes: > Whoah, back up the truck!!!! (deep breaths). Rumors are floating around > that "Julien Daigle" is Alex. Then in NMS issue #1995 there's a post And to quote the pope in _Johnny Dangerously_, "Yeah, and I'ma da pope-a." > from Neil himself? As a closing I will quote from a movie I barely > remember the title of: "Something strange is afoot at the Circle K". I > can't wait for the beginning of next month. Hmmmm... I'm ashamed to admit that I know that it's from _Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure_. CB ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Savoury <rsavoury@cs.mun.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:16:07 -0330 (NST) Subject: Re: 03/26/98 CARESS OF STEEL I would like to voice my opinion on COS.I love it,it is raw,heavy,and loud.While the lyric's ,overall, are not the bands greatest,there are still some well written and meaningfull moments lyric'ly.Lakeside Park has great lyric's,it brings back fun childhood memories for me,and it is IMHO a classic "summer" song.Bastille Day has a very cool concept,i'm not too fond of the lyric's,but musically I think it is a kick ass tune.I love the drums,it's a personal favorite of mine to jam.I Think I'm Going Bald also has a neat concept,also I love the bluesy riff's in it.The Necromancer is my favorite song on the album,it is one of RUSH's heavier songs and reminds me of BLACK SABBATH in places.It has haunting guitar,and Geddy's vocals gie me chills at points,especially early on, 'and southward journy on',and 'spector's never fear -they bow defeated'...are two of the best sounding vocals on the album.FOL always puzzles me...I never quite know what to think of it,it has odd timing and some crazy changes.I am always left wondering if I really like it or not.It does,however, have a few moments where Geddy does some serious wailing vocally,which is cool. Overall I think COS was a very ambitious album that never really reached it's potential for several reasons.It has a different sound than most of their other recordings .It probobly did not turn out as they wanted it to,but it is still a solid effort which exposes a slightly different side of the band. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Miers, Dan" <DMiers@nmh.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:50:00 -0600 Subject: 3 Quick Ones First, to my good buddy Scott Chase..."Something strange is afoot at the Circle K" is from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (Excellent!) Second, Christopher John Palo asked about Geddy's bass on p/g. To the best of my knowledge the Steinberger was the only instrument he used on that album; a sound no Fender can reproduce (for better or for worse). Third, Grand Designs - You're right, the Sec Soc society thing is old. But heed my mother's advice, "If you ignore him, he will go away." For what it's worth, I am very much enjoying my freedom from the KAR (now with Scott's company). DWM ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Finkel <sfinkel@qualcomm.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:59:02 -0800 Subject: you don't say.... (newbies: forgive the tangental fun we're having--between top ten lists, Julien Dingleballs vs. KAR, and all the other hoopla, I couldn't let this go) gandalf the GREY wrote: > >==> ==> ==> engage flaming device <== <== <== > > Yep, you're right. I guess Frodo didn't need that stupid white gold >ring either. > > OK, here's a spell: May an incontinent elephant relieve himself on >your keyboard, causing the F key to act as a T, and cause you to be >forever known as Scott Tinkel. > > Just kidding! > >==> ==> ==> disengage flaming device <== <== <== <okay lads, return fire!!> WELL, mighty WHIZard! (you are the most clever one, aren't you!?) It would certainly not be the first time I was called that (maybe the first time since the 6th grade...). I'll bet you couldn't stop giggling to yourself once you thought of that. Soooo funny!!! <lighthearted sarcasm> =) Frodo did not ultimately need the ring, that's why he cast it in the fire. Dolt. =)) I think that if an elephant got incontinent on my keyboard, there would be a lot more wrong with it than the F acting like a T, don't you? I certainly wouldn't type with it anymore, except maybe to write YOU email. =) Besides, you're puny flaming device couldn't hold a candle (pun intended) to my Elephant OR my Tinkle!!!! <okay, enough with the (f)lame device> Rush content--They rule, plain and simple. I was listening to Animated in my car today. I think for my new cd-r project, I'm going to take all of the funny intros they do live,(or as many as I have available, anyway) and intersperse some of the studio cuts. Let them intro Country Cold Fahyre, then play the studio track. That sort of thing. Should be amusing. Like this list, of late. I think the whole SecSoc and KAR thing is because people aren't eating enough bran these days. Once you get your sphincter all bunched up, it does strange things to the rest of your body, including your thought process. For some folks, (like Gandalf, perhaps) there's not much separation there anyway. Your momma, Scott "I used to be the Breadman but now I'm just plain Wheat" Finkel ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "Miers, Dan" <DMiers@nmh.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:07:00 -0600 Subject: Song Lyrics Great thread on favorite song lyrics...here are a handful that tickle my cerebellum.... A. Emotion Detector - "When they lift the covers from our feelings, we expose our insecure spots, trust is just as rare as devotion..." B. Kid Gloves - "Anger got bare knuckles, anger play the fool, anger wear a crown of thorns, reverse the golden rule..." C. Red Lenses - "And the mercury is rising, barometer starts to fall, you know it gets to us all, the pain that is learning..." D. Losing It - 'nuff said. E. Mission - to hear Neil Peart write "I walk through the beautiful buildings and I wish I had their dreams." is very, very humbling. F. Bravado - "We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost..." G. Spirit of Radio - The power of the all-too-familiar "glittering prizes and endless compromises..." line is often overlooked (overheard?). H. Something for Nothing - "What you own is your own kingdom, what you do is your own glory, what you love is your own power, what you live is your own story." Amen. I. Hand Over Fist - "Take a walk outside myself in some exotic land, greet a passing stranger, feel the strength in his hand, feel the world expand." Take that challenge to heart. J. Cold Fire - For some reason the line "A phosphorescent wave on a tropical sea is a cold fire" has always created an intriguing image for me. K. The Fountain of Lamneth - the picture I see in my head when I hear Ged sing "Yet my eyes are drawn toward the mountain in the east, fascinates and captivates, gives my heart no peace. The mountain holds the sunrise in the prison of the night, till bursting forth from rocky chains.... The valley floods with light." is very, very vivid. That's enough for know. Play nicely, share your toys. DWM ----------------------------------------------------------
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