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The National Midnight Star, Number 1048
Friday, 13 January 1995
Today's Topics:
Rock Paper Scissor
Chronicles Video
NO new album/lasers in 1983?
Mr. Big reference in Big Money
Re: 01/10/95 - The National Midnight Star #1047
Is there a delay or not, rush-mgr?
RUSH magazine...
Talent show
Some stuff for my collection....
The History of Rock as Seen Thru the Eyes of a Dinosaur
Neil on CNN
SWEAT SHIRT INFO
Re: Burning for Buddy info
Tom Sawyer keyboard sound
Different Strings
Tom Sawyer in rap
Hey Beavis...
O Canada... You still out there?
(none)
Rush on MTV
Archives
2 quick things.
Sources, assholes, the works...
Order list for aniversery stuff
Any RUSH collectors out there?
Montreal
The real RUSH!!
Re: 01/10/95 - The National Midnight Star #1047
Rush tour this summer
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:57 EST
From: Tony Dormio <TDORMIO+aROCKVILLE%Rockville@mcimail.com>
Subject: Rock Paper Scissor
A quick take at answering a Presto question from NMS #1047
>From: rastaman@dkunix.dkeep.com
>Subject: Some Presto Questions
>My guess would be the clenched fist=percussion and Neil. The
>open hand suggests the guitar and Alex. The upside down peace
>sign the plucking hand of Geddy on bass. Is this blatantly
>obvious? any comments welcome.
The clenched fist - Alex: frustrated at trying to play the
augmented D# minor add 7th without a
wammie.
The open hand - Neil: playing a la Congo (or Neil preparing to
slap Alex for leaving some crumbs on his
Slingerland)
The upside down peace sign - I don't know, but it's not Geddy.
Ged would've used a different
gesture. I once asked him if he
uses a pick and he said, "NO! I use
THIS" and then he prominently
flipped me the bird. My guess is
that he was showing me his big ole
fingernail that grew in thick after
some accident.
Could be anything Rastaman. Maybe even "Rock-Paper-Scissors" ;)
Tony Dormio - actually I've never spoken with Geddy, although,
Geddy flicking me off in Rush hour traffic is a
fantasy of mine.
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From: "Paul Gregory Kehle" <pgkehle@eos.ncsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:06:15 -0500
Subject: Chronicles Video
Well, watching the Chronicles Video, I was simply amazed at the video for
"Mystic Rythms". It is just great to be able to play along with the music for
the setup that I have for my drums, but watching the videos helps you to
understand the technique that Neil plays with (poor grammar, I know). The
videos help you to understand how he plays those awesome fills during
"Subdivisions", and I think that it is a great investment for those of you out
there who would want to try to pick up some of Neil's style (you'll just have
to bypass that whole 80's look in the middle of the cassette).
As for the Chronicles CD, just getting "What You're Doing" and "Passage To
Bangkok" live on CD is worth the $20.
Later all..
pgkehle@eos.ncsu.edu
Electrical and Computer Engineering
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, North Carolina
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 9:22:25 -0500 (EST)
From: PARMERTERB@hartwick.edu
Subject: NO new album/lasers in 1983?
>From Larry Allan at the Buddy Rich show two months back he said that the band
would not be out on the road until 1996 and the album may or m ay not be out
by the end of 1995 - don't get your hopes up about a new album any time soon,
They were going to meet at Alex's Restuarant for an after New's Years meeting
though to discuss things, but don't expect anything too soon = but don't rule
out Rush yet though, they've still got a number of years kicking around in them
Watch out for a Summer 1995 Buddy Rich tour in Europe though (possible).
Also, according to the March 9, 1983 Forum video in Montreal Rush did not use
lasers. Someone check the video from the night before and let us know.
Brad - alexmeister vonBastille
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:49:07 -0600 (CST)
From: WELDM@ns.rhodes.edu
Subject: Mr. Big reference in Big Money
Wayne & Garth, although they would be much cooler if they listened to
Rush, are victims of circumstance. First, Mr. Big is a pretty common
name to call any high management person, as was the character in Wayne's
World. Also, the Mr. Big on the Rush plate is a tribute to the band
who toured with them "Mr. Big." In fact, if you check the liner notes
on Power Windows, a thank you in England goes to "Mr. Big and the Royal
Jamaicans." I believe I saw their name in another album, but I can't seem
to locate it anywhere.
Dave Wells
WELDM@vax.rhodes.edu
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Date: 11 Jan 95 12:10:11 EST
From: Dorothy.M.Hui@Dartmouth.EDU (Dorothy M. Hui)
Subject: Re: 01/10/95 - The National Midnight Star #1047
rastaman@dkunix.dkeep.com wrote:
why is Presto brought to you by the letter "D"?
--- end of quoted material ---
just as why is counterparts brought to you by "oe"?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:31:50 -0500
From: tapiap@falcon.mercer.peachnet.edu (Pedro Tapia)
Subject: Is there a delay or not, rush-mgr?
Greetings,
March 28th was the original release date for RUSH's new album, but now
I hear that the date's been pushed back till fall? I'm surprised that the
RUSH-MGR didn't mention that he would follow up on it, or whether this was
true or not. Let's clear the air. The sooner the better, don't you agree?
[ I have already stated that the album MAY be out in late fall, as they
are supposed to start writing/recording in the next month or so...
but don't expect a Rush tour until 1996.. : rush-mgr ]
By the way, why do we care what a bunch of animated cartoons think about the
world's greatest band? Huh, huh, heh, huh...
Also, was RUSH really on ROCKLINE, and if so, where the transcripts?
[ Rush has been on rockline many times, if you're talking about the most
recent one, it was only Neil (about the Buddy cd). : rush-mgr ]
Cheers,
Vinnie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:26:48 -0600 (CST)
From: KUESTERKE@UWSTOUT.EDU
Subject: RUSH magazine...
Hey gang,
I just finished reading a copy of RUSH the comic magazine a buddy loaned
me. Quite interesting. Anybody else seen this one?
I also have a copy of 2112 on vinyl. The label is a Johhny Rodriguez
label. The album itself is RUSH content, just the label is mixed up.
Anyone else heard or seen of this.
A RUSH of excellence to you all...
K
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>...we'll hit the stops along the way, and only stop for the BEST!!!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:47:47 -0500
From: Rob4drums@aol.com
Subject: Talent show
My high schools talent show is coming up, and I wan't to do a rush tune w/
my band. I'm looking for a song w/ amazing guitar,drum, and vocal
parts....but w/ easier bass parts. (Our bass player is not so hot) Any
suggestions? We're also doing "hot for teacher" by van halen. Could anybody
help me out w/ the opening drum solo? THANKS,
Rob4drums
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:49:57 -0800 (PST)
From: 9443740@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU
Subject: Some stuff for my collection....
Fellow Fans,
I am looking for a live recording of Fountain of Lamneth, or even live
excerpts. I hope they exist. Also, any old tour posters or even
regular. I really want a Hemispheres and a 2112. Help me if you can.
Thanks.
-Arvid Hokanson
"It's one for all, and all for one we work together common son..." -2112
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:23:54 -0600 (CST)
From: DRFULLER@ualr.edu
Subject: The History of Rock as Seen Thru the Eyes of a Dinosaur
Hello fellow Rushies!
Isn't so appropriate that Magic 105 (our local rock station in Little Rock) is
playing "Limelight" as I begin this! I've been reading TNMS for a few weeks
now, and I must say I'm very impressed with what I read. I was really beginning
to worry that perhaps rock'n'roll as I've known it was a dying breed, but
the enthusiasm and dedication that my fellow Rush fans clearly exhibit when
writing about this wonderful band has restored my faith in today's youth.
Perhaps rock isn't quite dead just yet.
I'm sure the experienced posters out there can tell this is my first post to
TNMS (yawn!). I'm sure this will be the first of many posts I'll be making in
the months (and hopefully years) to come. I just wanted to take the opportunity
in this first post introduce myself to the other Rushies out there. Highly
opinionated and passionate posts will come later, I can assure you.
I am a 37 year-old university professor who has a fairly extensive background
as a fan of rock music. I've been a "true" Rush fan since 1980, although I've
followed the band almost from their first album. I only had a marginal interest
in the band up until 1980 because I was more into Led Zeppelin. Prior to Zep,
my favorite bands were the Beatles (first and foremost) and later Grand Funk.
I followed rock music very closely beginning with the Beatles (I have vivid
memories of seeing them on Ed Sullivan in February 1964). I was very interested
in pop music-- any pop music-- during the 60s and early 70s, but by the time
I got to high school, I was more into arena bands like Zep, the Who, Eagles,
Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, Styx, Heart, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Doobie Brothers, Queen, etc.
As far as taste in music goes, I'm rather schizophrenic: I can be happily
engaged in a heavy metal band like Zep one minute, but then change to something
like Cat Stevens, Aretha Franklin, or B.B. King the next. Then, the next
minute I might be listening to Mahogany Rush, Black Crowes, Crash Test Dummies,
or Collective Soul.
Well anyway, without boring anybody further, my first live experience with Rush
was March 8, 1977 at the Norfolk (VA) Scope. Rush was the warm-up band for
Kansas during Kansas' "Leftoverture" tour. I still remember the night very
vividly (despite the fact that I was pretty blotto). Their entire set consisted
of the entire song "2112." It was incredible to say the least. I thought they
practically blew Kansas off the stage. Since that first show, I've seen them 13
more times in several different cities (e.g., Chicago, Detroit, Cincinnati,
Indianapolis, St. Louis, Dallas, Little Rock). My best friend (who had never
seen Rush) and I drove 650 miles to see them in Indianapolis during the Presto
Tour.My greatest regret is that I was in Toronto several years ago when Rush
was in town and I didn't go see them! My wife and I had seen them in Detroit
and Indianapolis a few nights before, so she was fairly sick of them by the
time we reached Toronto (she's not a very big Rush fan at all, although we have
two cats, one which loves Rush at 120+ decibels-- I ought to keep the cat and
get rid of the wife!). When Zep folded after the death of John Bonham, my full
attention turned to Rush. And the rest, they say, is history.
Because of my long interest in the band (both superficially and intensively),
I've had the opportunity to see Rush and its individual members evolve over the
years. Comparing the band when I first saw them in '77 to the last time I saw
them (Dallas, January 28, 1994, Counterparts Tour), the difference is truly
amazing. Neil, Alex, and Geddy have all three evolved into premiere musicians.
The integrity of the band and its members is probably what I admire most. There
has been alot of garbage passed off as rock music the past decade or so, but
Rush just keeps on plugging along doing their own thing on their own terms.
I'm terribly sorry for the length of this; I know alot of you probably aren't
interested in an old man's perspective of Rush. I'd be pissed too if I had to
wade through something I didn't particularly care to read. So... for now I'll
close this, but before doing so just a few more tidbits. I really can't zero in
on a favorite Rush album (I love 'em all!), but if forced to do so, it would
probably be "Hemispheres." At one time, I wasn't really crazy about either p/g,
PoW, or HYF, but with each successive listen, I become more and more impressed
with them. My favorite Rush song is easier to choose-- without a doubt its
"The Trees." However, there are literally hundreds of other songs that I think
are simply masterpieces. Being as old as I am, you might think I'd pick the
early albums as more favorite over the newer ones, but in reality I like them
all. As I said, the truly interesting thing about my experience with the band
is in watching them mature year by year. Counterparts is one of the best albums
they've made in several years.
As far as possessions go, I have all the customary stuff, but my favorite Rush
possession by far are the Promark 747 drumsticks with Neil's name on them. I
managed to beg them off one of the roadies after a show in Memphis in 1982. I
still have the poster that came with the Hemispheres vinyl album; it's hanging
up on a wall in my office here at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock.
My students can't believe I listen to them.
To John Grothman: Ah, the old days! How my heart yearns for the days of hissing
and popping of vinyl. The old "coin-on-the-tone arm" trick
really took me back! As Bob Hope would say, "Thanks for the
memories!"
I will be posting from time to time, especially if I feel my $.02 will add to a
particular discussion. Keep the faith, dear Rushies!
Donald R. Fuller, Ph.D. (drfuller@ualr.edu)
aka "The Rock'n'Roll Dinosaur"--- Just call me Dino.
"Each of us, a cell of awareness
Imperfect and incomplete
Genetic blends with uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet."
GO HOGS GO !!! Will it be a 2-peat ?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:55:33 HST
From: puanani@wana.pbrc.Hawaii.Edu (Puanani Akaka)
Subject: Neil on CNN
Hail.
Someone mentioned possibly seeing Neil on CNN in connection with the
B. Rich project. You were right, the Neil-meister was on CNN.
Not that I saw it, of course. My brother informed me of the momentous
occasion. He said Neil was interviewed briefly and was saying, basically,
how inferior he felt compared to Buddy and how hard it was to try to
play up to Buddy's standards. That was all i was told. Just wanted to
confirm The Sighting. :-)
Don't suppose he'd shaved his goatee, huh...?
Ho-hoo!
puanani "Don't want to snag our pants on your sharp ethics..."
-- Dennis Franz, "N.Y.P.D. Blue"
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Subject: SWEAT SHIRT INFO
From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:12:00 -0500
Can someone re-mail me the info about how to buy a sweat shirt ? It
somehow got zapped from my system..
Thanks!
Richard.MOrey@factory.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:27:12 -0600
From: s851001@umslvma.umsl.edu (Ed Blonski)
Subject: Re: Burning for Buddy info
Hi ho people! Yes, I'm still around. It's been awhile since I've stepped out
of the lurking shadows but I'm only 5 months away from graduated with a
Master's and I've had to spend a little time studying...no,no, no pity
please, I know you really care! :)
Doug <gal002@monmouth-emh1.army.mil> writes:
>Subject: Burning Info
>NMS-ers,
>Just got a copy of "Burning for Buddy". It's in
>the stores. Jazz section under Buddy Rich, or
>Various (has been seen in both). It's on the
>Atlantic/Anthem label (#82699-2 if you need to
>order it).
>If there was EVER any doubt...yes, Neil can make it
>as a jazz drummer. He plays the kit on track #6,
>"Cotton Tail". (a Duke Ellington tune that I had the
>honor of playing 1st chair trumpet in H.S. Jazz
>Band) He also does percussion on track #18.
Jazz drummer? Yes, Neil could make it. Album producer? Not so sure about
that. Anyone else feel that the non-drum instruments sound flat and
lifeless? This is supposed to be a jazz album, but the band sounds to formal
and rigid for jazz, even big band jazz (a good example: compare this album
with Si Zentner Alive in Las Vegas) Maybe this isn't Neil's fault, but isn't
a producer supposed to have a say in how the music sounds?
Comments, anyone?
Ed
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:09:37 -0600 (CST)
From: SJR5145@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Subject: Tom Sawyer keyboard sound
A while back (actually a LONG while back, NMS issue 1037) someone wrote in
wondering about how to get the keyboard sound for the beginning of Tom
Sawyer (and actually its in the whole song) programmed into his TS-10.
E-mail me! SJR5145@acs.tamu.edu
I know how you can get this sound quite easily!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 18:05:53 -0600 (CST)
From: IFDF701@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Different Strings
Since there were a couple posts about Different Strings in the last
couple issues, I thought this would be a good time to bring up a thought I had
a couple days ago while listening to it.
All in all, I think it's a good song, especially Ged's bass stuff. But
there's one part of the song that kinda ruins the mood of it for me: the very
end, where Alex goes into a what-the-hell-is-he-thinking riff. It's so
terrible, it totally ruins the mood and the feel of the song. Here's this nice
solemn song going along, and along comes Alex with this total distorted junk
to round it all off. I must say he really made a mistake by putting that noise
in this wonderful song. No, I'm not an Alex hater; I just hate to see a good
thing go to waste.
Anyone else notice this or feel the same way?
Michael Hannaman
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:58:51 -0500
From: DblAgnt@aol.com
Subject: Tom Sawyer in rap
Hi,
To address the question in NMS 1046...I've heard of the rap song using some
of Tom Sawyer...
According to what I've heard it's called "Time 2 Make the Donuts". Again, I
don't know for sure, but this is from what someone told me. He told me it's
by a group of young black teenagers called "dead end kidz doin' lifetime
bidz"...
The person also told me that most Rush fans he shows like it. He said also
that the liner notes of the album say that bits of "Tom Sawyer" were used by
permission, and special thanks go out to Rush.
Hope that helps...
-Dave(DblAgnt)
dblagnt@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:46:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Kathy Dittrich <dittrich@tenet.edu>
Subject: Hey Beavis...
Why are some people here so upset with the fact that Beavis et. al.
dissed RUSH? Remember folks, Beavis and Butthead are supposed to be
STUPID. Part of the fun of each episode is, for me, watching them slag my
favorite bands. Tons of cool bands have been put through the grinder by
them. The idea is that the audience won't take it too seriously, since
it's a cartoon. It's not an honest critique.
Okay, sermon mode off. Back to the NMS.
--Leela
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:02:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Kathy Dittrich <dittrich@tenet.edu>
Subject: O Canada... You still out there?
Didn't someone on this list have a HUGE .wav file of Ged singing "O
Canada" for one gane of the '93 World Series? If so, would you PLEASE
e-mail me details of how to get in touch with you? I'm doing all this via
a very temperamental modem, so I don't want to run the risk of a 2 hour
download with nothing to show for it. Is it out there? And can anyone put
it on a floppy if I send them one?
--Leela
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 10:04:39 +0100
From: pve@nml.norasia.com (Patrick Vella)
Greetings from Malta in the Mediterranean.
I think we're the first company to have an on-line Mosaic interface
to the Net.I immediately made a bee-line to the music section in the
hope of finding a rush user group. I'm very happy to have found one
although I must admit that I'm a fan of the older rush music.
I first listened to Moving Pictures at a friends house at a time
when I was searching for a good band , with good drumming and
provocative lyrics. What I found was a band with unsurpassed
drumming, thought-provoking lyrics and a style of music that was
to me new and interesting. I got hold of all the albums prior to
Moving Pictures including "Archives". (The first thing I did was
to ftp the lyrics of "RUSH" and "FLY BY NIGHT" which I did not have)
I consider the albums from RUSH all the way up to "Grace Under Pressure"
as some of the best rock albums ever produced.No offence, I just don't
relate very much to the newer albums of rush although tracks like
"Mystic Rhythms", "Available light" "Ghost of a chance" are superb.
I'm writing because I finally see in Counterparts a return to the RUSH
that I'm familiar to. A return to the centre if you like.
One point: There is talk of RUSH creating a live album this year.
I hope it's on the lines of "All The Worlds a stage" which in my
opinion is the only live album of rush. "exit" and "a show of hands"
are more like greatest hits albums.
I think it is unfair to the listner to take the best interpretation
of songs from three evenings and put these onto vinyl.The concept of
a live album in my opinion is to take a snap of a groups performing
ability at a moment in time, capturing all the atmosphere of the live
audience, all the comments etc.."All The Worlds' a Stage" is just that.
In it's simplicity, it is excellent. It is raw, and it is "there".
Just my opinion, sorry for taking so many lines.
I'll be around...
pve@nml.norasia.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 14:52:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: MARLOWE <MARLOWE.psd@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Rush on MTV
The other day while on America Online I found an MTV section. There was a
comments section called "Yell at MTV" where I immediately sent "PLAY MORE
RUSH!". Later, after further thought, I don't really care if MTV plays Rush.
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