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The National Midnight Star, Number 1014
Wednesday,24 October 1994
Today's Topics:
Administrivia
Neil Compuserve interview, 10/5/94
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From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
Date: Wed Oct 26 20:41:07 EDT 1994
Subject: Administrivia
Yes, at long last, syrinx is finally up. If you were wondering where we were,
the system had been down for over a month trying to get a software upgrade in
place. Now that that's done, the NMS is back! I'm still processing lots of
adds/drops/bounced mail, so it'll take a few days to get back up to speed.
There probably won't be another digest until I get all caught up.
And here is the Neil compuserve interview I mentioned in the previous mail, it
was done on Oct. 5 for the "Burning for Buddy" album release (so most
questions are about it, rather than Rush).
- rush-mgr
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From: John Santore <jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed Oct 5 20:43:44 EDT 1994
Subject: Neil Compuserve interview, 10/5/94
Transcribed without permission by John Santore <jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu>
(editted most of the garbage out and formatted it nicer)
User User ID Nod Area Name
---- ------------- --- -------- -------------------
1 75203,1230 DAM Rm 1 Carl R. Bach
2 74774,1026 NUV Rm 1 NEIL PEART
3 72426,2673 AJP Rm 1 The Magician
4 74634,707 TAC Rm 1 Sri K. Iya
5 73121,1422 DJB Rm 1 John Santore
6 74774,660 NUV Rm 1 SS
7 74361,1247 BPG Rm 1 Marion & Roger
8 100422,414 HBI Rm 1 Lutz Jaschinski
10 75322,2466 FRF Rm 1 Joseph M. King
11 76703,662 JSC Rm 1 Joe Katz
12 76702,356 JSC Rm 1 Recorder
13 75222,3606 RVH Rm 1 Joseph P. Vitale
14 75547,2345 PEJ Rm 1 Glen Vilches
15 74250,1006 JSE Rm 1 Men of Willowdale
16 73504,541 HEP Rm 1 Matthew Ramsey
19 75122,44 LGS Rm 1 Brian Veit
25 72662,1371 BAM Rm 1 Eliz. Fisher
(1-11,Moderator) It must be getting close to opening time ...
(1-11,Moderator) I see that I am magically transformed.
(1-17,Danny Robinson) This is the right forum, isn't it?
(1-11,Moderator) Absolutely, Danny!
(1-7,Marion & Roger) yes sir
(1-11,Moderator) We're waiting a moment so that the
(1-28,Vivien) I'm kind of nervous.
(1-3,The Magician) relaaaaaax
(1-10,Joseph M. King) How do we know it's really Neil?
(1-11,Moderator) folks who slip in fashionably late don't bang the seats as they
enter.
(1-7,Marion & Roger) I CANT
(1-3,The Magician) maybe the moderator is neil?
(1-11,Moderator) Ha. Have I ever lied to you before?
(1-11,Moderator) Awwright ...
(1-8,Lutz Jaschinski) who knows...
(1-11,Moderator) let's get these proceedings under way ...
(1-11,Moderator) Ahem. <g>
(1-11,Moderator) Hold on folks, okay?
(1-11,Moderator) Thanks to our partners at Atlantic Records, tonight's the
night we meet Neil Peart. The occasion is the launch of Neil's latest
album, "Burning for Buddy: A Tribute to the Music of Buddy Rich."
Sorry. A glitch. I will be right back.
let's begin the conference. <smile>
We'll begin jwith a brief presentation by Neil ...
followed by a question and answer session ...
When I signal thebeginning of the question and answer session .
anyone with a question should type a question mark ...
I'll keep a list and call on those folks ...
in turn. ...
When you've finished with your question ...
please type "ga" to signal that you're through ...
so that Neil can answer. ...
Neil requests that we focus the questions ...
on his excitining new project ...
at least until the end of the conference ...
So let's honor his wishes ....
and make this a fun evening!
Okay, Neill ...
The spotlight has just turned to you!
ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Right, okay, thank you, and welcome to the information
backroad. This is my first time live on the wire like this, so naturally my
fingers will be a little nervous - kind of a "digital dyslexia."
In any case, as mentioned, I'm most excited about this current
project, the Buddy Rich project, but I don't want to be too, um, rigid about it
I just don't want to get caught up in a game of Rush "Trivial Pursuit." I'm
sure you understand, no? ga
(1-11,Moderator) Okay ...
now is the magic moment when it's time to type a question mark
to get in the queue ... for your turn. Sri? ga
(1-4,Sri K. Iya) Hi Neil, this is Vik from Seattle here. Are there any
drummers not on the album whom you wanted on the album ? ga
[To ME-]
;;[11] Moderator - You're next. Get ready.
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Good question, and thanks for the interest. Inevitably,
there were a few drummers whom we invited who were just unavailable during
our short two-week "window of opportunity." An example would be Louie Bellson,
who is one of the veteran players, and a friend and contemporary of Buddy's.
Another example would be Phil Collins, who I wanted to have based upon his
excellent drumming on the Genesis records. After great effort, I got hold of
Phil himself, and received a nice personal response, but he felt he just
couldn't do it. Otherwise, most of the people we invited took part. ga
(1-11,Moderator) John? ga
Neil, thanks for coming on here
I was wondering how working with so many different drummers (guys like weckl
and bruford who I believe were on this project) have influenced you own
personal approach to drumming? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Well, that's a bit of a tough one because you don't really
know how an experience has affected you until after the event, and it's
really too soon to tell as yet. However, I would imagine that after having
played drums for nearly thirty years, and having played a style which is so
much myself, I really wouldn't anticipate that great of an effect.
For myself, I see it much more as a side project, rather than the main thrust
of my musical endeavors or anything like that. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Thanks, Neil! ...
(1-11,Moderator) Lutz, ga
(1-8,Lutz Jaschinski) Hi,how long has the project been running? had there been
any plans to include Jeff Porcaro then? <sad> ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) In fact, this project was only conceived last January.
When I found out that Geddy and his wife were expecting a "blessed event," I
started thinking about what I might do with this sudden block of free time-
because the tour had been scheduled to go until the end of June, and suddenly
we were finishing at the beginning of May instead. Ever since I performed
live with the Buddy Rich band back in '91, I had been wanting another chance
to play some big-band music, and this seemed the perfect time. So I contacted
Cathy Rich, Buddy's daughter, and together we started putting together the
ideas, and the suggestions for guest drummers. ga
(1-11,Moderator) John King ...
(1-11,Moderator) please go ahead.
(1-11,Moderator) ga
(1-10,Joseph M. King) Greetings, did the drummers who play on the album bring
with them a certain style or did they catch a certain "Buddy" vibe? Also, as
producer, what decisions did you make in the studio? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) For the most part, the drummers were chosen with that "certain
style" in mind. We were looking for a certain "excellence," as well as a
certain "appropriateness" for the project - i.e., the drummers had to be able
to play this kind of music, in all its complexity and technical demands.
At the same time, nearly all of the music on this tribute was drawn from
Buddy's repertoire, but since that spans 40 years, from the late '40s right up
to the late '80s, there was plenty of stylistic range from which to choose.
Thus, you're correct on both counts! ga
(1-11,Moderator) Mr. Frank ...
(1-11,Moderator) ga.
(1-13,William E. Frank) Have you been involved in jazz/big band music as long as
rock and do you miss it playing in the context of Rush? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) One of the ironies of this project, is that I've really never
(need italics there again) been involved with jazz drumming, and yet it
predates my involvement in drums. This is because it was my Dad's favorite
music, and consequently I grew up with it playing all the time. And thus, I
don't really miss it in playing with Rush - in fact, one of the great things
for each of us in Rush is that whatever our musical influences have been over
the years, whether collective or personal, Rush's music has plenty of room
for it. Thus this was never a frustration for me, or some kind of unrealized
ambition, but was rather a whim - truly, I just wanted the opportunity to
play big-band music in a controlled environment: the studio. In a general
sense, I have always been totally satisfied by playing in Rush, because it
is a band which was designed for that - to make us all happy.
In some cases, the drummers were familiar with some of Buddy's repertoire, and
asked to do particular songs. In others, they could just suggest what
style they would like to do, and Cathy would send them a few suggestions -
a tape with a few different tunes from which they could choose. One of them,
Bill Cobham, just showed up on the day, and asked me to pick what I wanted,
and he would play it. That was great! - he taked requests! So in a case like
that, I was able to get him to do "Milestones," which was one of Buddy's
arrangements that I really liked, and also one, as producer, that I really
wanted included on the record. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Bryan, ga.
(1-19,Brian Veit) Hi Neil. Is Buddy Rich more of an influence on your playing
to day than, say . . . thirty years ago? If "yes" who were your earliest
influences? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) This is another one of...
I was never a great hero-worshipper, and my only exposure to Buddy Rich or his
music was on the "Tonight" show. My first inspiration was a movie called the
"Gene Krupa Story," which made drumming look like a fun and exciting thing to
me. But once I started taking lessons and playing myself, I was only
interested in rock music. Through the mid- and late-sixties, that was the
only thing I listened to or wanted to play, and coincidentally it was also a
great time for rock drummers. People like Keith Moon, Ginger Baker, Mitch
Mitchell, and Michael Giles (King Crimson) were doing all sorts of weird and
wonderful things on the drums - things the earlier rock drummers hadn't even
dreamed of - or at least, hadn't dared to try. . . ga
(1-11,Moderator) Willowdale, ga.
(1-15,Men of Willowdale) Neil, do your future plans include the release of
any collections of your written work??? ...and are you considering any other
musical side projects? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Firstly, no, I do not plan to publish any of my written work
for general consumption.
[Amusing interruption]
(1-20,Down to Ground) Why was the sound on the latest Rush tour so Bad?
The woerst I've heard in years!
(1-2,NEIL PEART) At present, it too is just a "side project," and I'm perfectly
happy just to do it for myself, and learn as I go. Otherwise, on the musical
side, as I mentioned, I have been totally satisfied as a drummer with my work
in Rush, and really have no need to do any side projects. Again, this one was
more of a "whim" than an ambition, or some long-frustrated dream. First a
whim, then a labor of love, and then. . . "Love For Sale." ga
(1-11,Moderator) Jeffrey, ga.
(1-36,Jeffrey Fanelli) Evening' Neil, so.. what's a tribute effort to YOU going
to sound like in 20 years?? :-) [btw, I'd also like to see your written
stuff published, your writing is a joy to read, hope you have another
'whim' soon..]
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Truly, I don't anticipate a tribute to myself... With all
humility, I mean really... It's important to remember too that this is a
tribute to the Music (pretend that's italicized) of Buddy Rich. The thing
that made a tribute like this possible is that there was so much great
material (more italics there) in his history, so that when we brought these
musicians together, we had so much choice, and so much great stuff to celebrate.
There are no other drummers that I know of who would merit such a tribute,
whether as musicians or bandleaders, so for me at least, this trend ends
here... ga
(1-11,Moderator) Curt, ga.
(1-31,Curt K.) Do you think this experience will effect the sound of future Rush
tunes? ga
[Message to Neil (and he never replied BTW, or even listened to my suggestion]
/send 2 just as an aside you can denote italics via computer with
_italics_ or *italics* and people should get the gist
(1-2,NEIL PEART) No. As mentioned, I have been doing what I do for almost thirty
years, and I've certainly been doing it my way, so I doubt very much if one
side project is going to have that much effect. Certainly I learned a lot
about another style of music,
(1-31,Curt K.) (Great!<grin>)
(1-2,NEIL PEART) and I enjoyed the experience very much, but I've been
playing my way for a long time, and I expect I'll continue to. I'm a stubborn
old bugger... ga
(1-11,Moderator) Kelly, ga.
(1-9,Kelly O'Keefe/SL3) Good evening, Neil. I ask this as proxie for my husband
Danny, a dummer, whose brother Brendan's band "Nite Sprite" featured Dave
Weckl in the early '80s. How did Dave become involved in the project? And did
Rick or Jerry Marotta participate?
(1-11,Moderator) ga?
(1-9,Kelly O'Keefe/SL3) Oops, dRummer...ga..
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Specifically, Dave Weckl was asked for the earlier-stated
criteria - his excellence and his prominence in the drumming community. Also,
he performed at a Buddy Rich Memorial Scholarship concert a few years back,
and when I saw the video of that show, I really liked the way he played
"Mercy, Mercy, Mercy," which happens to be one of my favorites as well,
so I put in a special request for him to do that one. ga
(1-11,Moderator) David, you're on! ga
(1-24,David Rossing) Hello Neil, I noticed your jazz preferences seem to lean
toward the big band era, so what are your thoughts on the likes of Miles Davis,
John Coltrane, and Ornette Coleman?ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) As I think I intimated earlier, I am not really a big jazz
fan. Big band music in particular appeals to me as a drummer, because it shares
many of the same conceptual underpinnings as does Rush music - by this mean
its architecture, the tight arrangements and so on, which in turn allow a lot
of freedom within those arrangements for the individual musicians to express
themselves. Thus, although I enjoy a lot of other styles of music as a listener,
there are really no other ones that I would enjoy playing (italics). For
example, I like listening to reggae music, but I would never (italics) want to
be a reggae drummer - the boredom would kill me. So very often, what one
likes as a listener doesn't reflect what one likes as a player. In any case,
to answer your question, I really don't know a lot about those guys, so
wouldn't presume to pass an uneducated opinion about them. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Carl, you're up. ga
(1-1,Carl R. Bach) Hello Neil! It's an honor!! Congrat's on your project.
Someone asked my question ... doooooohl <----Homer). But I have another...
If I'm not mistaken, you enjoy visiting Africa.....What are some of your
favorite memories of your last trip? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Way to go Bart! Ha. Its hard to be specific about something
as deep and variegated as a journey through the remoter parts of Africa, but
I can say that I was particularly enthralled by the Dogon people of Mali, who
like in villages much like the Anasazi pueblos of the American Southwest - the
difference being that these people are still living there, and still living
much as they have for centuries. Very remote, and very exotic to the outsider.
Another great one was an experience playing with the local master drummer in
a village in Gambia, a story which I recounted in a story in "Modern Drummer"
last year. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Marion, ga.
(1-7,Marion & Roger) Hi Neil. First I want to thank you for all the drumming and
music you have put out over my lifetime.Secondly I was wondering if you
and and the other drummers limited yourselves to the same type (size ,number
of pices in the set etc..) of drums that Buddy Rich had traditionally or
commercially known to jam on? For example did all of you play on one type
drum set or did each drummer bring in their own ?ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Good question. No, everyone made that choice for themselves,
and some the drummers brought in quite elaborate kits. For myself, I made a
conscious choice to limit myself to the classic four-piece drumset,
just as a special challenge. Now that I've had a little experience playing
this style of music, I would probably use a more elaborate drumkit in future. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Lutz, ga.
(1-8,Lutz Jaschinski) A personal question. how do you feel about this kind of
digital communication? does it rather encourage or in a way scare you? at
least I am 4.000 miles away (with an ocean inbetween). ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) I wouldn't say that it either scares or encourages me - it just
is (more imaginary italics, please.) I'm one of those old-fashioned guys who
still likes to communicate with his friend through long, rambling letters,
so this kind of "sound bite" communication is not my... um... glass of
Scotch! ga
(1-11,Moderator) Ok ...
(1-11,Moderator) The question queue is full ...
(1-11,Moderator) because we have to give our guest an opportunity to
(1-11,Moderator) unwind a little so .....
(1-2,NEIL PEART) By the way, that should be a plural on "friends" up there - I'v
e got more than one, honest!
(1-11,Moderator) we'll certianly go through those in line ....
(1-11,Moderator) and then break into informal chat. ....
(1-11,Moderator) John, you're next. ga
Neil, I was wondering what sort of
ultimate goals/expectations you've had for this project as it
certainly has a different focus than your work with Rush
would you say you successfully accomplished those goals?
ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Good one John. Ideally, I would just like a lot of people
to hear this record - I truly believe that anyone who does will just
have (italics) to like it. Otherwise, the major goal has been achieved -
the thing has been (here come those italics again) made. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Carl, ga
(1-1,Carl R. Bach) Sorry for the non-new project content But I've heard
many rumours about how your name is pronounced.... does it rhyme with
'fear' or 'hurt'?
(1-2,NEIL PEART) fear. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Joe ...
(1-10,Joseph M. King) Thanks . .
(1-11,Moderator) it is now yours. Sorry for my goof earlier.
(1-10,Joseph M. King) Same question as before . . .
(1-10,Joseph M. King) Do I need to restate? ga
(1-11,Moderator) Nope. Neil has a great memory.
[He accidentally interrupted me before]
(1-10,Joseph M. King) I am always looking for good music to listen to and
would really like to know what albulms' (besides Buddy Rich Project, I'm
already going to get that!) Neil (italics) listens to? (sorry, it's not a
"Buddy" questions, but it's not "Rush Trivial Pursuit" either) ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) As I mentioned earlier, I have pretty broad ranging tastes in
listening. Also, I tend to get tired of a lot of rock and pop music easily -
that is, as soon as I know it off by heart, I don't really need to near [SIC]
it anymore.
(1-10,Joseph M. King) I was hoping you could be a little more specific.
(I AM OFFBEAT) ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) It doesn't "nourish" me anymore. So I'm always kind of
reluctant to be recommending things to other people that I'll probably be
sick of myself in a few weeks or a month. In any case, I can't think of
anything offhand that I would strongly recommend for people to buy. There's
so much that's good, and - if I've got this quote right from my old Latin
classes - "De gustibus non est disputatum." ga
(1-11,Moderator) JHeffrey, ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) (There ain't no accounting for taste.) ga
(1-11,Moderator) Jeffrey, I mean.
(1-11,Moderator) Ok ...
(1-36,Jeffrey Fanelli) I've been graciously answerered already.
(1-11,Moderator) Ok, ...
(1-11,Moderator) Cathy it's yours. ga.
(1-39,cathy bauer) I came in late & noticed most of my questions have already
been answered. I'm asking this question for a local dj, forgetting music for a
minute... did you play hockey as a kid & what's your favorite club?
(bet you guessed he's Canadian <g>) Also, do you have any plans
for a tour, perhaps small clubs in our area? <g> I heard the cd last
week, it was cool! I really like the Steve Gadd & Steve Smith tracks.
You just mentioned big band music, just curious, have you heard Port of
Harlem Jazzmen by any chance? You've already made a comment
about being online, how do you feel about e-m? <g>
(1-11,Moderator) ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) No, I haven't heard them. I don't really have any feelings
about e-mail - but as I mentioned, I much prefer to communicate with my
friends through the greater depth and privacy of letters. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Willowdale, yours. ga
(1-15,Men of Willowdale) Aside from Ayn Rand and Carl Jung, who have been
your biggest political & philosophical influences? ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Too big a question for this puny medium! ga
(1-11,Moderator) Chip, ga.
(1-24,Chip Miller) Hello Neil, Any plans for some live dates with the
Buddy Rich Orchestra, or is it back to business as usual with Rush? Either
would be acceptable! ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Chip, either would be acceptable with me as well.
Seriously, business is seldom "as usual" with Rush, but I'm sure we'll be
putting our heads together pretty soon and deciding what we want to do next.
As far as the Buddy Rich thing is concerned, it could happen some time in the
future, but I don't have any specific plans at the moment. ga
(1-11,Moderator) Dan, please go ahead.
(1-11,Moderator) ga
(1-21,Dan Gibson) Hi, Neil! I'm in a progressive rock band based in New York
City, ... and we're about to finish mixing our album. Can you offer any
advice to us... on getting a manufacturing/distribution deal? Thanks! ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) As if! I really don't know anything about that sort of thing,
so I'm hardly the person to ask. One of my many mottoes is "get a
professional," and in this is case, I don't mean me. I mean that you mean a
business (italics) professional, someone whose job it is to know things like
this, and try to get them done. Me, I just hit things with sticks. ga
(1-11,Moderator) **** Before we take our last question ...
(1-11,Moderator) I have a surprise announcement ....
(1-11,Moderator) So don't leave ...
(1-11,Moderator) Atlantic Records willbe giving copies of Neill's Tribute to
Buddy Rich album ...
(1-11,Moderator) to three conference particpants (that means you!) ...
(1-11,Moderator) drawn at random ...
(1-11,Moderator) We'll have a message announcing the winners ....
(1-11,Moderator) in two days ...
(1-11,Moderator) posted here. (If you can figure out that tangled syntax.) ...
(1-11,Moderator) Scott, your turn. ga
(1-30,Scott Epstein) How did writing "Drumbeats" differ from writing lyrics?
And if you still read Horror, which writers? THanks. ga
(1-2,NEIL PEART) Working on "Drumbeats" with my friend Kevin Anderson
was a pretty painless experience - as any reader will probably gather, he
provided the story, and I provided the background. Lyrics, by their very
nature and by my approach to them, are an altoget her deeper, and more
difficult undertaking. The collaboration on "Drumbeats" was really another
"for fun" undertaking, much like this Buddy Rich tribute, while my work with
Rush always seems much more integral to me, much more a part (italics please)
of me. One of the ways in which this has been a nice part of this B.R.
project, is that I enjoy listening to it a lot more, because, essentially, it
is not my (it.) work - it's a lot of other people's - so I tend to be less
critical of it, and simply enjoy listening to it more. Finally, I would just
like to say that this has been a very interesting experience for me, although
I find it a little frustrating - as I'm sure some of you do too - that it is
such a slow, and necessarily shallow, way to communicate. Even though I'm a
reasonably rapid typist, when I think of how much I could have said (it.)
in this amount of time, it doesn't seem like a good deal. On the other hand,
when I realize that I'm communicating in "real time" with so many people who
are equally "wired in" to this ether, it is kind of amazing. In any case,
thank you all for being part of this - I hope I've managed to shed a little
light on what's going on here - and I would like everybody to stand up and
give our esteemed Moderator a huge round of applause. Then, we should
all get up, turn off our computers, and go for a long walk... Bye. ga.
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