The National Midnight Star #658

From temples@syrinx.umd.edu Wed Apr 7 19:45:52 1993 Return-Path: <temples@syrinx.umd.edu> Received: from syrinx.umd.edu by dsys.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST-dsys) id AA01423; Wed, 7 Apr 93 19:45:50 EDT Received: by syrinx.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA06402; Wed, 7 Apr 93 18:30:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 18:30:08 -0400 Message-Id: <9304072230.AA06402@syrinx.umd.edu> Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: 04/07/93 - The National Midnight Star #658 Status: R
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Wal Basses and Bob Costas Up against the Wal Geddy and fretless Miscellaneous Spring Break Gets Better Wal Basses Tai Shan and Prime Mover Hello a Rush radio travesty Other Mailing Lists Backmasking It'll never happen my first posting ---------------------------------------------------------- From: terrywo@microsoft.com Subject: Misspellings Date: Tue, Apr 6, 1993 4:21 PM A couple days ago someone (sorry, deleted it and forgot who wrote it) mentioned seeing The Spirit of Radio titled incorrectly somewhere. I was just reading through the Chronicles CD booklet while waiting on this compile and found a brief description of "The Spirit of the Radio". An incorrect title in one of their own releases... Wherein lies the difficulty in this title? -terry terrywo@microsoft.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 01:57:08 GMT From: Mark R. Pickenheim (JIAFS) <malzor@vab02.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Interesting Superconductor 'mistake' With this talk of little mistakes here and there I wanted to just quickly mention something. On the RTB tour in New Haven, Connecticut, I thought it was really cool in a way to hear Geddy accidently (?) say 'superconductor' once when this is normally done in the voiceover. Later ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Apr 93 22:09:39 EDT From: Philip.S.Augur@Dartmouth.EDU (Philip S. Augur) Subject: RTB Rap I think Robbie Robertson would've been really good for the rap, and John Cleese would've been pretty funny. I just went through radio training today. All I've got to do is take the Legal Test and soon I'll be hitting the airwaves and playing the rarest Rush the station will allow. Phil P.S. - Who answered Kate Bush in one of the multitude of polls? Get in touch with me. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Apr 93 21:57:52 CST From: "(Gerry Good)" <J455%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> Subject: MST3K list, SPAM!!! Hello All, I had many people respond to my last post, asking where to send to join the MST3K list. I couldn't remember it at first, but after thinking a while I have two possibilities for the address: gynko@circ.upenn.edu or gynko@cisc.upenn.edu (sorry about non-Rush content, but I'd rather post and get yelled at then type this a gazillion times! :) ) Second, bravo to Thomas Beaudoin for the Spam song. Great. Seeyas! |===============================================================| |Gerry Good -- j455%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Whew!) | |===============================================================| | /-------/ / / /-------/ / | | / / / / / / | | /-------/ / / /-------/ /-------/ | | / / / / / / | | / /-------/ /-------/ / / | |===============================================================| |"He's got a tree! He's got a tree! That's not the Godzilla | | we know!" -- Tom Servo | |WATCH MST3K=========WATCH REN & STIMPY ===WATCH BEAVIS=========| ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1993 22:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: mhoupt@uceng.uc.EDU (Michael R Houpt) Subject: basses + Hey Ladies and Gentlemen, I just wanted to make a couple quick comments: 1) I am a bass player and I personally have never seen a Wal bass in my life with the exception of Rush concerts. 2) I agree with the person who wrote the letter yesterday about the backwards satanic stuff. I.e. that it is all total b.s. 3) I think the reason Geddy doesn't use a fretless bass is because of the difficultly of his playing and that the frets keep his pitch together with Alex. Take "Marathon" for example, that song would be practically impossible!! 4) If anyone has any other Rush songs on tablature, please write me so I might be able to get a copy. This months Guitar World (I think) has a transcription to "The Spirit of Radio". [ There are many bass & guitar tabs on syrinx (via anonymous ftp), in the rush/tab directory. There is a CONTENTS file that explains what each one is. : rush-mgr ] 5) Does anyone have a copy of Permanent Waves with the lady (Oh la la) holding a Coke bottle next to her body, if so please let me know! 6) Keep in mind when interpreting lyrics that Neil Peart writes Metaphysically and compares lots of objects to emotions especially in "Prime Mover". Each can interpret his own. [ Please remember to use < 80 characters per line! : rush-mgr ] Take it easy all, mike mhoupt@uceng.uc.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 23:16:07 -0400 From: tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Travis Corcoran) Subject: There's no such thing as 'Conservation of Syllables' A lot of people are saying things like: "<x> <y> <z> backwards isn't <a> <b>; it's <z> <y> <x>..Hell, can't you even count syllables?" Well......it doesn't work that way... I'm not a linguist or into digital sampling, etc., so I can't tell you *why* it's not that way, but I remember something on TV (aggh, protect me!) yr.s ago about backward words (not in the context of searching (!!) for satanic lyrics...I think it was a SF movie trying to create 'alien' language w/ backwards English). Turns out (once again, I don't know why), that i) There's no conservation of syllables ii) Backwards sounds are counterintuitive- 'sat' doesn't necessarily become 'tas', as it does in print. ObShirtRemark: I've only been subscribed 2 wks or so. Where can I get shirt info? [ Anyone wanting NMS shirt info, send e-mail to: meg@syrinx.umd.edu : rush-mgr ] --- Travis J.I. Corcoran tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu This? This is ice. This is what happens to water when it gets too cold. This? This is Kent. This is what happens to people when they get too sexually frustrated. (Real Genius) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 23:33:50 -0400 From: Christopher Mermagen <cmermag@wam.umd.edu> Subject: How much Rush pull in and Wal Basses I seem to recall Rush devoting the proceeds from one concert in Canada to the united way from the Presto tour, and that turned out to be $300,000. For one show.. anybody else hear this (actually I read it in Billboard mag).. that's alot of ducats.. well, let's see, if they play a 19,000 seat arena @ $27.00 and they sellout, then that's $513,000, so I figure they played an 11,000 or so seat arena that sold-out.. Okay, on to Wal basses. I think?? somebody wrote last time that Wal was specifically made for Geddy.. nope. Geddy first played a Wal that Peter Collins lent him while they were recording Power Windows, and he liked it so much he bought his own. (I guess the black one, and then bought the red one).. Personally, and I don't know about you, but I remember Ged's bass really lacking in overall sound on the last tour (as far as compartive volume).. I seem to remember on Presto that it was there, but for all the shows (3) I saw of RTB, I could barely discern.. anyone else agree? later- Chris ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dxpetr@mail.wm.edu (Donald Petrille) Date: 6 Apr 93 23:39:39 Subject: Give the guy a break Rushians- I have to say that I'm pretty upset to read the NMS and find somebody getting slammed for there interpretation of a Rush song in a modern context. While some may not like what he had to say, and it may have been somewhat disrespectful to the President, I do believe that what he had to say was relevent to the NMS. I wonder if the same reaction would have happened if somebody bashed a conservative. While strict discussions of politics have no place on the NMS, interpretation of lyrics, (ours as well as Neil Peart's) has always been allowed, and should, under no condition be squelched, even if some of us get offended. If you disagree with somebody's interpretation of a song, email them or write a counter, don't go telling them that they shouldn't write about it. "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire? On a second note (which may get as many flames as the letter about the President did), is anyone else kind of disappointed with the title _Critical Mass_? I think it sounds awful dated, like when nuclear disarmament was the top goal on the world's foreign policy/social agenda. Basically, I don't want Grace Under Pressure II. It is my favorite album, and is great, especially within the context of its time, but Rush has always moved forward with their music. If anyone disagrees, or agrees, I'm always open for comment. [ As many people have mentioned, _Critical Mass_ doesn't necessarily mean that. Also, remember it's just a *working* title, the end title could end up completely different. : rush-mgr ] Don Petrille "The ability to destroy an entire planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." - Darth Vader \ /\ / / / 300 Years and still cookin' \ / \ / & / \ / \ \ \ / \ \ dxpetr@mail.wm.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 22:55:27 -0500 From: jtstrzyn@papaya.wustl.edu (Jeremy Todd Strzynski ) Subject: Bootleg topics i have two things to respond to. first of all, i'm fairly certain that for the AFTK tour Rush opened with Xanadu, but i know for a fact that they didn't open with 2112. this is because the bootleg "Fly in the Night" (which is a very mediocre sounding boot, but does have Cygnus X-1 AND Cinderella Man on it, so i can't be too harsh) lists the first track as "Intro/Xanadu". but i can't be certain this means Xanadu was the first song they played, because the boot claims to be from 1980, even though Geddy says "this song is from our latest album" right before Alex begins the classical guitar part for AFTK, so i can't put too much confidence in the bootleg company. but they didn't open with 2112, because right at the end of one of the tracks (either "Closer to the Heart" or "Something for Nothing"--i can't remember which right off hand) you can hear the very beginning of 2112, the weird noise which i can't describe but all of you know anyway, for about one second, and then they cut to the next track. pisses me off, because i'd like to hear it. secondly, someone asked what the voices were on "Over the Europe." before i begin interpreting them, i have to make this disclaimer: i have NO idea. i'm just making this up, because i think it sounds good. those of you who have been on for at least a few months will remember what i thought the sounds on "The camera eye" were. with that said, one time when i was listening to OTE, the point when the voices appear, i recalled a play that my high school did, called "The Foreigner", if i remember correctly. the basic plot was that someone from england was visiting a friend in the us, and though various, over-used comedic devices, the friend convinced everyone around him that the englishman was really from some far-off place and couldn't speak english. (and again if i remember correctly, every cheesy thing that could have happened in such a situation did.) anyway, at one point the englishman was asked to tell a story about where he was from, so he made up a story, and told it in his "native" tongue. judging from the body language, the story was about a beautiful girl who was eaten by a ferocious beast. so to wrap things up, the voices in OTE sound like the story the englishman told, with the two alternating voices being the girl and the beast. but like i said, i have NO idea what it really is. this is just what it sounds like to me. does anyone else know the play i mentioned, and if so, do i make any sense? (please don't answer that.) jeremy she's beautiful, she's rich, she's got HUGE ... tracts of land. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 07 Apr 1993 00:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: I WILL MAKE IT A FELONY TO DRINK SMALL BEER <STU_NESHUE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> Subject: CDs Hey dudes and dudettes! Got a little piece of info:On a recent list of Rush "rare" CDs I came across another new one: Rushian Roulette '92. Anyone got any specs on it? It's a 2CD set. maybe finally a 3rd leg recording?? Later {ll, Nate [ Third leg - supposed soundboard DAT recording from one of the Oakland shows if I remember correctly. :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 01:03:55 -0400 From: ba080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim B. Stevenson) Subject: Archives color Hello again Matt Davis posted that he saw a blue Archives cover. The cover to my Archives set is indeed a faded blue color. I originally thought it was strange when I saw it was grey in the RTB tourbook. Hmm...anyone else got/seen a blue Archives? -- U.S. CONSTITUTION - 1ST AMENDMENT (Paraphrased): ||ba080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu "Congress shall make no law...abridging the || Jim "SnowDog" Stevenson freedom of speech, or of the press..." CENSORSHIP|| RUSH - THE BEST GROUP IN IS THEREFORE ILLEGAL. SO HOW CAN IT EXIST?!? || THE GALAXY!!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: lbutler@hubcap.clemson.edu (L Clator Butler Jr) Subject: Re: I would not stake my reputation on.... Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 01:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Evenin' Folks, I spoke with representatives from Anthem Records yesterday and here is what they told me: virtually nothing. Truth ----- Rush is working on an album. They enter the studio next week. Rush has a different producer. This is classified information. So there -is- a good bet that it is Collins...but we do not know. Rush has NOT decided on an album title yet. They are tossing around ideas, but have yet to make a final decision. This album is due out in the early fall, but that could change in either direction depending on how the sessions go. Remember, RTB was recorded inside of three weeks. So all we have been discussing is hearsay. Sorry folks. :( There goes my great end-of-the-year story. --Clator --lbutler@hubcap.clemson.edu p.s. I just recieved my promo copy of Pork Soda by Primus. It is due out on the 20th. It is...well...Primus. Look for the video to "My Name is Mud" on MTV. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 01:32:02 EDT From: Greg.Andrade@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Wal Basses and Bob Costas Wal basses are manufactured in England and are not yet widely popular. The only other bassist I know of, who uses Wal basses, is Greg Lake of ELP. He uses a four string black model, similar to the one Geddy used before he got his shiny new red one. As for AFTK being heard on Later With Bob Costas, Bob is a huge fan of rock music. If you think he knows a lot about sports, he knows even more about music. I've never heard him say he liked Rush, but he usually selects the music for his shows or studio work at NBC. The next time I talk to him, I'll ask if he's a Rush fan. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 22:52:31 -0700 (MST) From: jeffrey r brinkman <brinkmaj@gas.uug.arizona.edu> Subject: Up against the Wal Hey, Long time no post. I saw a comment yesterday about Ged having the Wal's made specifically for him. Hmmm...Well, I'm not a bass player (i'm a guitarist), but I don't think that they were made just for him. If I remember correctly, not only does Ged play them, but so does Newsted of Metallica and Guy Pratt from Pink Floyd. Let me know if this is incorrect, and I'm sure you will. Hmmm, Prime Mover. Always thought that it was about the invention and interchange of ideas and creativity from someone/something going against the grain. Kinda reminds me of Mission too. Opening bands. How about a Clash reunion??!!! Ok, Ok, how about just 3 hours of rush? Sounds good to me. Finally, best guitarists: Lifeson Page Hendrix Clapton Eric Johnson Al DiMeola Santana Gilmour Knopfler Not to touch the earth Not to see the sun Nothing left to do But run, run, run -The Doors Jeff Brinkman Univeristy of Arizona Biochemistry and Microbiology ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Geddy and fretless Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 8:11:47 GMT From: Dominic Binks <binks@compsci.bristol.ac.uk> Lewis Berstein writes : On a side note, I remember hearing Geddy say that the reason he doesn't use a fretless is that he was dismayed to find that he isn't very good at it.... You have to remember that Geddy thinks he's not very good at it. To most mortals souls he's probably pretty excellent. Dominic Binks binks@uk.ac.bris.cs ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 02:16:47 PDT From: johnlee@sirius.UVic.CA (John Lee) Subject: Miscellaneous Hello Rushians!! First of all, a .64 cal flame directed at MuchMusic: Goddamnit, I have been scanning the T.V. guide for, let's see, oh, about 2 whole years now, and not ONE Rush spotlight have I seen, yet groups like Mr. Big and Emcee-DownHome-GrandMaster-McHomey-"G"-in-da-House-yo-yo-yo have appeared several times! Get a grip, O stupid Canadian Music Television company!! I have caught glimpses of videos several years ago including The Big Money, Show Don't Tell, Roll The Bones, even Xanadu!! So I know MuchMusic has them, but where is the spotlight?!? Twits... "You had better set it right or I shall come over and insert a large garden gnome in you. Good day." --Basil Fawlty On another note, a "prime mover", I've heard, has something to do with muscles. I know nothing more than that. Maybe ask an anatomy student? Thirdly, a reality attack: Good Lord, Rush is awesome!! A more talented band I have yet to see upon this planet. Underrated? YES. Underplayed? YUP. Hey, it's been almost 20 years since Rush got going... I hate to mention this, but how many more gigatons of radness can we expect out of them before they call it quits? Not to sound negative, but let's not lose our heads in the clouds. Finally, a thought that hit me hard the other day: Once Rush decides to pack it in (at least for a while), that will be IT. I can't conjure up anyone in my mind who could replace any of the three. It just wouldn't be the same. IMHO, Homey don't play 'dat. Food for thought. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "My uncle has a country place that no-one knows about, he says it used to be a farm before he mowed the lawn..." --------Red Barchetta (I once knew some guys who thought that's how it went!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------John ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dstrickl@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Daniel Patrick Strickland) Subject: Spring Break Gets Better Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 9:27:20 CDT On my trip home for Spring Break last week (it's over, I'm in withdrawl so please be kind) I was just about 30 miles outside of Franklin, TN and decided to flip on 103.3 KDF from Nashville, seeing as I had missed this station so much. Anyway, the moment I flipped it on, they played "Tom Sawyer". What a way to start Spring Break! I'm sure they did that for me, right? All this talk about "Prime Mover" and I haven't said anything yet. It's always been my favorite Rush song, so here's two copper pieces I think the lyrics are intensely sexual. Don't really know why or for that matter care. I think it's very sensual. If you asked me to quote exactly why, I'm not sure I could tell you, but the whole "point on a compass" and "moving back and forth" thing is very John Donne to me. Not really sure what kind of a statement Neil is making on anything or if he even means to (what am I saying? Neil is right up there with God and Paul "Bear" Bryant...). Maybe I'll go pop that cd in and see what I can find out. |--------------------------|---------------------------------------------| |Daniel Strickland | "Black wind falling to the ocean floor | |dstrickl@buster.eng.ua.edu| And the red tide washes ashore" | |Univ. of Alabama | -Red Tide [maybe crimson???] | |--------------------------|---------------------------------------------| |Roll Tide! 13-0 Vanderbilt, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Tennessee,| | Mississippi St., South Carolina, Ole Miss, Tulane, | | Arkansas, L.S.U., Auburn, Florida, Miami... | | A long list of victims... | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 09:10 CST From: <RD14459%SWTEXAS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> (Red Neck [Robert Dittrich]) Subject: Wal Basses Greetings folks! Living near Austin provides access to some of the better music stores. Austin City Music carries Wal basses (on occasion), so, being a bassist, I HAD to have one so I could get that lovely "tunk tunk tunk" sound (you know what I mean)! They are made in the UK and yes, the leader of this company died a few years ago. However, they are STILL making basses using this man's methods, and the materials that make this bass unique. As near as I can tell, both the black Wal in the ASOH vid, as well as the red one we saw on the RTB tour are pretty much 'stock', and very little has been done to them as far as I can tell related to tone, parts and appearance. (Unlike those Frankenstein basses we saw Claypool shredding on during Primus' opening set!!) I love mine, and if you have the cash (I gave $2500), buy one immediately. Someone else mentioned Terry Bozzio in another post. Forgive me for being anal, but Bozzio was and is a drummer. He and his wife, Dale, appeared on Frank Zappa's 'Joe's Garage' album before forming the Missing Persons (yes, that's his wife). He is, as you said currently working with Jeff Beck. The ongoing remarks about female Rush fans...hmmmm. I would LOVE to meet a female Rush fan! I know they're out there, but I have yet to run across one. Sigh. Robert [RD14459@swtexas.bitnet] [RD14459@nyssa.swt.edu] "sound and fury drown my heart; every nerve is torn apart" --NP ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 10:13:55 EST From: BJYOUNG@ucs.indiana.edu Subject: Tai Shan and Prime Mover Just a question and a thought: Question: Does anyone know how many songs on HYF Aimee Mann sings on? I always just assumed she only sang on "Time Stand Still." But, this morning I was listening to "Tai Shan," and I noticed a very slight (and very much in the background) female voice during the last 30 seconds or so of the song. Has anyone else noticed this or have I reached my edge of hearing sanity? I had to use headphones to hear it clearly. Thought: I'd also never really thought about the lyrics to "Prime Mover" until someone on NMS mentioned it in the last week. Geddy certainly makes them very powerful in the way he sings them. I agree that Neil probably meant them to be both deist and Randian--it seems to be a celebration of the individual as sole creator. Pretty cool. Laissez faire, minarchy, and good art, Brad. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: tm1cy1 <tm1cy1@greenwich.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 16:37:17 BST Subject: Hello Two things...., first nothing to do with Rush... but what is Canada like as a place? Im getting very fed up with Britain, and wish to move at the end of my degree to either Amercia or Canada, but as ive only ever heard bad things about the US, im thinking more of Canada. 2ndly, this is gonna sound stupid, but Neil Peart's dad a plumber? (The reason I ask is that there's a girl here that comes from canada and says that Neil Pearts dad has done their plumbing.. or the other way round, can't remember.. but there you go... ta da! -- Marcus Tyler-Moore ... ( I love all animals...especially pigs, horses and sheep... ) Baaa...woof... moo... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 09:43:20 -0600 From: Greg Thorwald <thorwald@mars.Colorado.EDU> Subject: a Rush radio travesty One of the local rock radio stations here in the Denver, Colorado area (KBPI 105.9 FM) this morning began playing "Fly by Night", but after several seconds (before any vocals) the dj cut if off and said that he didn't want to play that and proceeded to play some other song. Anyone else ever suffer in this way? Greg ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 12:18:58 -0400 From: kbullock@acpub.duke.edu (Kenneth Bullock) Subject: Other Mailing Lists Scott Edgar: there is a Tull list (the St. Cleve Chronicle). The address to request it is Jtull-request@remus.rutgers.edu. You can obtain a list of all mailing lists from pit-manager.mit.edu (here's a chance to use your FTP server). It's a four-part, compressed list. Get part1.Z thru part4.Z from the directory pub/usenet/news.answers/mailing-lists (if I remember it correctly). Then just uncompress the files. [ You can also mail to the rush-mgr account if you're looking for a specific group, or want the whole list. I am happy to help... : rush-mgr ] Ken ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Dickerman <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> Subject: Backmasking Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 9:54:09 PDT At the risk of straying from the Rush-material, one clarification. In the last issue, Jim B. Stevenson wrote: > The point is, very few bands actually > take the time to put backwards messages in their music (the only ones > I can name are Iron Maiden, WASP, and Pink Floyd), and most of the time > they have nothing to do with Satan. Think about it..do you think Rush > was the type of band to do shit like that? It should be stated, before I go any further, that I do not buy into the Satanic message backmasking theories, nor do I think Rush are satanic in any way (nor would I care if they were). However, in an effort to better understand the rationale behind this theory, I can offer the argument posed in "Hells Bells". Again, the theory is not mine -- I don't buy into it -- please, no flames. Although it can easily be argued that bands don't _intend_ satanic messages to be put backwards in their music, this only shows how this backmasking is a _direct_ result of Satan's hand. Basically the theory is that Satan (or "Stan") controlls the sounds that musicians produce so that the backmasking is put into the music without their even knowing it. There is also a fairly lengthy section describing the Book of Satan, and how it promotes all things backward... not to mention the link between rock music in general and Satan's pleasures... etc. An interesting argument, from a philisophical point of view. It also gives any opposing argument no leg to stand on, give-or-take the fact that the passage sounds very little like what they claim it says. Disclaiming intent to backmask only lends creedence to the argument that Satan is all-powerful, etc. I guess if you can hear the backwards words, then you have to decide for yourself if it's merely a coincidence, or the work of Stan.... (insert spooky music here). "Only the true Messiah denys his divinity." (similar argument) -- Dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: It'll never happen From: DHUART@lear.sinclair.edu Date: 07 Apr 93 13:41:57 EDT Break-up...BREAK-UP?!!!..... If my Comm-Col atom smashing Gorton-Kleer was functioning properly I'd blast you and your poll happy butt into quivering randomly spaced sub atomic particles. Curse you for a three eyed slime oozing ground toad for even suggesting such a horrific idea. It'll never happen....NEVER I tell you.... I won't listen to anymore crazy talk. You're mad I tell you...MAD. Bill C. Dave No more lithium please"Huart Dear rush-mgr: Hope there are no more Control Characters in this post If so advise me how to rid my self of nasty vermin,....please [ It seems to happen when you try to use the backspace, they look like the control characters that form when you use the arrow keys in an editor. Is there any editor you can use without using arrow keys? : rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- From: avdecand@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: my first posting Date: Wed, 07 Apr 93 14:30:05 EDT Hey ya'll from lovely Raleigh, North Carolina Not the Rush capital of the world but there are a few Rusheads around the local area. Just thought I'd say thankyou for the FAQ list. I'm slightly computer illiterate... and sometimes have to be led to the computer by my mother. Anyway, the list provided me with great relief for now I will not have to endure the agony of upsetting so many of my fellow Rusheads... can we get a confirmation on a correct spelling on Rusheads/Rushheads...sorry the ignorance is consuming the room. I've just recently acquired my 8th Rush CD. I started listening to them a while ago... but only to the more popular songs like Tom Sawyer and the like... when they were played on the radio in Virginia Beach ( the only decent radio station is WNOR... long live that pig the BULL... his blood pressure is getting pretty high of late I hear). I really got into them last year when someone played a whole lot of Rush-6CDs full! AWESOME! I tend to like some of the old stuff like Anthem, Bastille Day, Working Man(that's what I am... a Mech. engineer),2112 etc.. generally songs with Alex going off and the louder the better. However, I have come to respect the diversity of their music; I can't say there is a song by Rush I don't like. I digress... I heard about the NMS by ...[drum roll please] meeting someone with the NMS t-shirt... no way... yes... [ So, we bring our first T-shirt-finding member to the list! : rush-mgr ] It captured my attention and brought me to the land of Alex, Geddy and Neil. I've learned quite a bit... and after reading part of the FAQ... it's kinda long ( no wonder there is some repetition...still a tribute to the people who recognize all the thingsthat have already been discussed time and again). Recently I went into an old record store... and to my surprise what did I find... 4 Rush albums (2112,Signals,PW,MP and ESL)... amazing someone would let those treasures go. that's all for now, waiting for the next tour, A V DeCandia ----------------------------------------------------------
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