The National Midnight Star #145

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Thanks again to Meg for the transcription! rush-mgr --------------------------------------------------------- From: mjahnke%sdcc13@ucsd.edu (******* Meg *********) Subject: Neil Interview - Modern Drummer 5/87 _Modern Drummer_ - May 1987 [included the single "Pieces of Eight"] "The Quest For New Drums" by Neil Peart Early in 1986, I started to think that it was time for a new drumkit. My red Tamas had been through four or five serious tours, and had been used in the recording of _Signals_, _Grace Under Pressure_, and _Power Windows_. They still sounded and looked great, but were getting a little tired, and besides, every four or five years I just like a change -- perhaps a different sound and look. But how to choose? Well, I think people usually buy what they've been satisfied with before, or they buy something that someone else sounds good playing. That's okay, I suppose, but this time I wanted to make absolutely sure that I was choosing the best-sounding drums available (or at least, the best sounding to me). So I spoke to Neal Graham at the Percussion Center in Fort Wayne, and we arranged to have no less than six identically sized kits with the same heads brought together in the same room, so that I could do an objective "road test" of each one. We tried to pick the most resonant shells from each of the makers in which I was interested. There was a set of Tama Artstars, a set of Premier Resonators, a set of Yamaha Tour series, the new Ludwig Super Classics, a set of Sonors, and a set of Tempus fiberglass drums from Canada -- what I felt would be the best drums from six countries and three continents. (Although I would certainly have included Gretsch in this category, I already have a small Gretsch practice kit at home, so I know they probably sound a bit warmer than I was looking for -- plus the company proved surprisingly uncooperative in regard to this test.) I enjoyed the long drive down to Forst Wayne from Toronto with my wife Jackie, cruising through the heartland in spring. It was lovely winding along the Maumee River in a good car, thinking thoughts of spring -- and of having all those drums to play with. But before that, I had to survive the ordeal of my first serious drum seminar(!). I had promised Neal Graham for years now that someday I would do my first real clinic for him, though the idea of speaking in front of a crowd seemed a lot more intimidating than just playing drums. But there would never be a better opportunity than this, and sometimes I like to do things that scare me! Fortunately, it went pretty well, and I felt good about having "survived" the experience. The next day, we went out to Larry Yager's farmhouse, and I spent the whole day tuning and comparing the different kits, trying to be as objective and careful as I could. I took a walk outside once in a while to give my ears a break, as darkening skies, strengthening winds, sporadic raindrops, and weather warnings threatened my first tornado! I've always wanted to see one...I think! But I do love to see nature in dramatic action like that, and it was nice to walk outside and be whipped by the wind for a few minutes. Refreshed and energized by these natural forces, I bravely returned indoors, and tuned and compared some more. Playing the kits side by side, and sometimes two simultaneously, I was trying to detect the subtle differences between them. Of course, all of these are great-sounding drums; any difference I would find would have to be so subtle that only the most careful evaluation could detect it. In fact, I would have been happy to record or tour with any of these drums, but I was looking for something special -- that extra bit of tonality and "snap." While I was shopping for snap, Larry was shopping for hardware, comparing the different "shiny bits" for durability, practicality, and good design. We settled on mainly Premier stands, with a few bits and pieces from Tama and Pearl. It was interesting that the 9x13 tom seemed to be the "acid test" for tom sounds. In each of the kits, the 8x12 and 16x16 toms were "much of a muchness," but there were subtle differences in that 9x13 that really told the tale. It seems to be a critical size. I also checked out a few snare drums, and was particularly impressed by the new Pearl model with the interchangeable shells. Nice idea! But I'm afraid nothing has taken the place of the old Slingerland yet; it's still number one. Another interesting discovery was that the Premier Resonators were anything but resonant! We received permission from the company to remove the inner shells, and then they sounded quite good -- rather comparable to the Yamahas and Sonors in having a warm, very "controllable" sound. I'm sure any of these would make very good studio drums, for getting a good sound with a minimum of fuss. But I was looking for something a little edgier, a little more exciting -- something that needed a careful tuning and playing approach to bring it alive. And I found it, too, in the Ludwigs. The results were surprising, as I must admit Ludwig had been a kind of "dark horse" contender to me. In fact, it was a very near thing between them and the Tamas. I had to take another walk outside, and then compare them again to be sure. (Disappoint- ingly, but perhaps fortunately after all, the tornado failed to appear!) But there is was: the response, the tonality -- the overall excitement of the Ludwig sound was just fractionally better. So...I ordered a set! We were to start working on nw material in the fall, and I really wanted to update my electronic outfit as well. I had been watching the progress of digital sampling units for a couple of years, and felt that the time was right to explore that. I spoke with the band's "technological mentor," Jim Burgess, told him what I was after, and he recommended that Akai unit, with a Yamaha MIDI controller. I decided to stay with the latest Simmons pads, as I like the feel of them. The sounds are digitally stored on those little 3 1/2" computer disks, and once you put them into the Akai's RAM memory, you can edit and change them at will without affecting the original sample. Assigning them to different pads is a simple affair, and you can copy from the RAM to a new disk to create new setups and safety copies. With the Yamaha MIDI controller, you can create "chains," which allow you to change programs with the flick of a footswitch. For example, in one of the new songs on which we're working as I write, I play an African drum setup for the verses, and then "click" to a setup of my acoustic Tama drums, sampled from "Grand Designs", for the choruses. Fantastic! I love it! I have mentioned before in MD's pages that I do not have a natural empathy with technological things -- they often give me a headache -- but at the same time I had to get into this, because, in the simplest terms, it does what I want! I have an insatiable hunger for new percussion sounds, but there is just no room in my existing setup for any more drums! This way, I can have access to every percussion sound ever played (and some beyond), and still be able to reach them all! I spent some time with Jim assembling a library of disks: all kinds of ethnic percussion, acoustic drum samples from our _Power Windows_ album paint cans, big sheets of metal, industrial sounds, pipes being struck -- you name it! The possibilities are absolutely infinite. One more decision that had to be made was whether or not to have the Vibrafibing applied to the inner shells. My last three kits had been treated by the Percussion Center with this thin layer of fiberglass, which is meant to even out the tonality. In keeping with my policy this time of taking nothing for granted, I asked them to do a sample 9x13 Ludwig tom to compare with an untreated one. Once again, it was a painstaking decision; I even took them into "Le Studio" to listen to, since I was in Quebec at the time. I found them to be a little sharper with the Vibrafibing, and the tonality was a little more focused. Making a decision on the finish was equally difficult. As much as I loved the Candy Apple Red finish of my Tamas, I just couldn't have the same color again! Neal and I discussed a few possibilities, and he did me up a sample with a mix consisting of an opalescent white base, with just a hint of pink in it, and a few metallic flecks to highlight the opalescence. (More goodies from the "hot rod" finishes book!) I stayed with the brass plating on the hardware -- because I couldn't think of anything nicer! Another thing I have been seeking for quite a while is a keyboard percussion synthesizer. I had been playing a marimba quite a lot and really wanted some kind of more portable instrument to use live and (hopefully) in the studio. Once again, Jim did some research and came up with a unit made by the KAT company in Massachusetts. It is available in modules of one octave and up, and basically consists of a set of soft rubber pads laid out as a keyboard. I decided on a three- octave range, and since the KAT is also a programmable MIDI controller, compatible with the Akai unit, I started collecting samples of marimbas, vibes, tubular bells, glockenspiel, tuned African percussion, harp arpeggios -- again, you name it! Like many percussionists, I had long harbored a secret wish to create a piece of music using only percussion instruments, and this looked like the key to that dream! I practiced with the KAT for a few days and then, when I had a free day, recorded a "demo" of a marimba piece I had been working on over the summer. I began with the marimba part, double-tracked it, and then overdubbed my acoustic drums on top (yes, the new Ludwigs!). I began experimenting with overdubbing different vibe sounds, a bass marimba, a cabasa, castanets, concert toms, metal sheets, African toms, and some highly tuned bongos. (All of this was played with mallets on the KAT unit.) I did use one of Geddy's keyboard sounds, but since it consisted of a marimba with a human voice mixed in, I decided that was close enough! The biggest difficulty was finding a good bass instrument in the percussion library. The bass marimba didn't provide the power in the bottom end that I was looking for, so we experimented with some other things. We ended up using an African drum called a Djembe -- transposed to the keyboard -- and I played the bass part with that! It made me laugh -- a new definition of "bass drum"! The piece is entitled "Pieces Of Eight" because of all the different time signatures it ended up meandering through. I hadn't thought about that too much just playing the marimba, until I had to learn it on drums! With only a day to record it all, I didn't really have time to play it more than a couple of times through, so that, too, was a good challenge. I find it interesting as a drummer to work with a melodic instrument and think melody as well as rhythm. You can really get into some wild areas! In a way, I wish I hadn't been so obsessed with drums alone in the beginning and had acquired more knowledge of music theory. But I suppose in this day and age you do have to specialize! Now, if I only had about two weeks in the studio to work on this thing... So I've got my new drumkit. Am I happy now? Well, yeah! Here I've managed to hang on to the best of both worlds: an exciting-sounding acoustic set and an incredibly versatile and "user-friendly" electronic set. Who could ask for more? Well, how about "Pieces Of Eight" becoming a hit single? Ha-ha! CREDITS Recorded and mixed at Elora Sound Studios Engineered by Jon Erickson Technical Assistance by Jim Burgess, Larry Allen, and Tony Geranios Copyright 1987 by Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mjahnke%sdcc13@ucsd.edu (******* Meg *********) Subject: Neil Interview - Modern Drummer 10/87 _Modern Drummer_ - October 1987 Neil Peart Drum Giveaway Results "Here's To The Winners" by Neil Peart Well, I have to tell you, this has been a very interesting and rewarding contest! 1,767 entries -- from places as far off as Zimbabwe and Finland -- came flowing into the offices of Modern Drummer. They represented many different styles and approaches. One of the more unusual entries was sent in by a female drummer with a minimalist credo: The whole tape contained just a single tom beat. Boom. She should have know I am not one of those who believe that "less is more"! The first time around, each of the tapes was listened to by the individual editors of MD. Once the entrants were narrowed down to about 150, these were listened to by a panel consisting of Ron Spagnardi, Editor/ Publisher, Rick Mattingly, Senior Editor, Rick Van Horn, Managing Editor, and Bill Miller, Associate Editor. Together they scored each one and then sent on the hightest-scoring 46 to me. Then my part of it began! I sat down with my Walkman and played each one of the tapes, making notes as I listened. Also, I was careful not to listen to more than 10 or 12 at a sitting, so I wouldn't get burned out or overlook anything. I just closed my eyes and listened hard, and then I wrote down what I liked and didn't like about the performance. When I was particularly impressed by one, I put a big "star" beside the name. After I'd listened through once to each of them, I went through my notes, choosing the "starred" ones for reevaluation, and checking to see if any of my written comments on others seemed to merit a second listening. After this, I was left with a lucky 13 semifinalists. I have to say that I was very impressed with the overall quality of these 46 performances. In the little paragraphs that I wrote about each tape, almost every drummer got a good review. (You won't find that out in the real world!) All of these players had very good technique, very musical sounding drums, and there was plenty of imagination and excitement. There is no question in my mind that there are a lot of very good drummers out there. The question might be raised: What did I judge them on? I must admit the criteria were necessarily pretty subjective. Of course, I was aware of technique and ability as I listened, but what moved me and the other judges, too, I'm sure, were more subtle qualities of imagination, rhythmic feel, and arrangement. I listened through those 13 tapes once more, this time a little more critically, and once again made notes as I listened, this time a little more analytically. That got me down to four finalists -- and now the judging got really tough. I listened to those last four again and again -- but I just couldn't decide. I really liked then all, each for different reasons. They really couldn't be qualitatively compared. Sure, one of the things I'm happiest about is that these final four were all so different in every way -- in musical style, indiviual style, and overall approach. But it didn't make deciding any easier. For three days, I just kept coming back to those four and trying to make up my mind -- which three, and in which order? They are all great, but none of them is entirely the perfect choice. Who should be number one? Well, I decided, there really can't be a number one. What I have here before me are four number ones. But I only have three prizes. So what else? I'll have to get another prize! At this point, I decided to call my good friend Lennie DiMuzio at Avedis Zildjian, to see if he might be willing to help me out in this. Sure enough, Lennie came through for me, and now there is a "Fourth First Prize" -- consisting of a set of Zildjian cymbals. My sincere thanks go out to Lennie and the good people at Avedis Zildjian for their help in this (and other) matters. In keeping with the idea of "four number ones," my ranking of these four is somewhat arbitrary, based on the slenderest of prejudices, as is the awarding of the prizes, so I won't degrade their efforts by that kind of distinction here. These are some of the reasons why I like the winners. The entry by Jack Hess of Indianapolis is very original, in that he spiced up his performance by triggering occasional synthesizer sounds. He was one of a few entrants to think of this -- a very imaginative idea, but he was the one to carry it off the best. He obviously spent a great deal of time working on this piece, and the work pays off in the tightness and integrity of the whole performance. The playing is first-rate, the rhythms are very modern, and the dynamics are effectively varied both by tough and by some tasteful rim playing. Overall, it's an excellent piece of music, and it is very satisfying to listen to. I like the one by Wayne Killius, because it has such a nice approach to a traditional, but abstract, form. His playing demonstrates a lovely touch. It is also one of very few to use a bit of brushwork -- and is very musical and unusual. The groove is very sophisticated, based around a funky, walking kind of rhythm, and there are some great sections of what I call "stiff-armed" syncopation -- a difficult style to control so smoothly. This is a superbly restrained and deceptively simple piece of work. Mark Feldman of New York City sent in a nice tape also. I liked the dark mood, the interesting construction, his smooth technique and combinations of nice tonalities. I thought it was technically and rhythmically quite sophisticated and very smoothly performed. Again, this is not an easy style to pull of as well as Mark has done. The refrain of the intro is a tasteful idea, and frames the whole piece nicely, making it, like the others, truly a piece of music. The fourth one -- one I just couldn't leave out -- is by Mikel Masters of Clearwater, Florida. I was impressed most of all because it is such an exciting solo, but it also shows great technique, is smoothly delivered, and is thoroughly bombastic and overplayed. I like that! The arrangement revolves around an excellent melodic tom pattern, and I like the sound of his drums very much, too. Part of my second set of notes reads: "interesting, original, flashy..." and that about captures this one, a very flamboyant and exciting performance, firmly in the Gene Krupa tradition. HONORABLE MENTION (in alphabetical order) Each of these was an exception entry, and if I'd had more drumsets to give away, these people would surely have gotten one, too: Terry Carleton, Palo Alto, California Scott Cutshall, Meadville, Pennsylvania Roli Garcia, Laredo, Texas Christopher Gately, Haverford, Pennsylvania Kevin Hart, Bourbonnais, Illinois Scott Hobgood, Norman, Oklahoma Jari Kettunen, Iisalmi, Finland Joey Nevolo, Neptune City, New Jersey Yuergen Renner, Roosevelt Island, New York ---------------------------------------------------------- From: mjahnke%sdcc13@ucsd.edu (******* Meg *********) Subject: Neil Interview - Modern Drummer 8/88 _Modern Drummer_ - August 1988 "Creating The Drum Part" by Neil Peart Recently, an "Ask A Pro" question crossed my desk that was not easily answerable in 25 words or less, so I thought: "Aha! Here's another excuse for an article." But here -- you'll see what I mean: "Your ability to play in odd times, play odd accents, and insert your fills in the most peculiar -- yet proper -- places is surpassed by none. To follow some of your more difficult music exactly seems (at my level) impossible! My question is: While you are playing, how do you think ahead to what you will play next? More specifically, do you 'think by numbers'? Do you 'hear' the upcoming riff in your mind? Do you see the 'hardcopy' of your music in your mind, or do you just let it flow? Can you give me any advice on a workable mental tract to use while playing?" Matt Ancelin Toms River NJ Now, aside from adding to my wonder about why I get so many letters from Toms River, New Jersey, and making me blush with embarrassment, you can see that there's plenty of "food for thought" here. Many drummers' minds will start to whirl when they think about these things, and I think all of Matt's assertions are, or can be true. But let's start at the beginning: with the numbers. Of course, it's never too early to learn to count, a skill that you'll need forever. So it makes sense that when you first begin to dabble in odd times, or even learn to flow well in 4/4 or 6/8, counting will teach you the "program." As you become more fluent in different rhythmic foundations, you will be able to recall these "hardwired programs," to set you into the right "cadence," or to let you pick up the "odd" beats at different times. I've written about this before, so I won't give it too much emphasis now, but you learn to subdivide the time signatures into their even-and-odd components, or to multiply them to make a series of odd bars add up to one long, even one. This is a trick I have used many times, playing 4/4 over 7/8, 5/4, or 6/8, and just holding the rhythm chugging along until all the bar lines add up again, and I can take off somewhere else! There is another thing, too -- a wordless mental "language" that I use to understand and remember parts. Certain phrases even have a kind of picture symbol; not notation, or the physical move, but an inner image of the effect of some little technique or rhythmic twist. So in that sense, I don't hear the upcoming phrase in my mind so much as see it. This, by its very nature, is unfortunately not communicable to others. I guess that's why we have written music! But let's get into the really deep waters of this question. All of the above will set you up for comfortable improvising, but what if you want to arrange a drum part, one that will stand forever as the definitive way of playing a song? (I know, I know...dream on!) Starting from ground zero, you have a blank slate -- a new song -- and a drum part to create for it. So you play detective, look for clues, put two and two together -- and come up with seven. (Always a good answer!) But the clues. Perhaps the songwriter will play you a rough tape. On it, there will be some indication of the tempo, whether it's from a drum machine or in the inherent "lilt" to the music as it's played. Then there will be dynamic hints: how the song builds, where you might want to make the strongest statement, where you can be subtle and supportive, and where you might add some rhythmic interest. What does the song need? Where are the vocal parts, the instrumental parts, the choruses, the bridges? These are all the building blocks, not only of the song, but also of your part in it. So you mind starts to sift possibilities: perhaps a big backbeat on the 3 for the verses, maybe a quarter-note bass drum with 16ths on the hi-hat for the chorus. And those bridges: Let's try a driving 2 and 4 on the snare, with a quarter-note ride, to build into the chorus, and then plane out under the vocals. And I think we could do some clever stuff in that intro to the instrumental: Bring it down and play across the time, with lots of those "ghost notes" that Rod Morgenstein is always talking about. Listen to the song another couple of times, mentally going over your "map" of the musical terrain and trying to cement the arrangement details in your head. Again, people use different ways to accomplish this, and all are good. It doesn't matter if you write out some notation (or use the kind of "shorthand" that many drummers do), or if you're able to rough it out in your head just from memory. In this case, if it works, it's right! Is the song dark and introverted, or is it light and airy? Do you want to be able to dance to it, or is it "just for the ears"? Does your band's common stylistic ground run to samba, ska, swing, or speed metal? What sorts of fills are appropriate, and where are they appropriate? And if you're playing speed metal, can you introduce some ideas from ska, samba, or swing that might make it more interesting? This is where the fun starts. Inevitably, it's going to be rough the first few times, especially if you and the rest of the band are all trying to learn the song at once. If you can do some experimenting with it at home, even if it's just on magazines to your Walkman, more to the good. But if you're diving right into it, again there are two approaches. Some people start as simply as possible. Then, if they feel compelled to add to that minimalist approach, they will. Other people start the opposite way -- trying everything they can possibly think of in the first few run throughs, then gradually eliminating the ideas that don't work. There's much to be said for either approach. In the first case, you'll interfere with the rest of the band less, and you'll come up with a good, conservative part. In the second instance, however, you're more likely to stumble into something original and unexpected, and if you have the luxury or working by yourself, it's at no one else's expense. This is, I suppose, the ideal. (Sadly, our world doesn't tend toward the ideal, and if others are complaining about all the noise you're making, you may not make many friends. And let's face it: In this business, you need friends, and you should certainly not alienate the bass player! So be nice.) The big word here: LISTEN. As you play the song, take time out from your explorations of outer space to listen to what your friend, the bass player, is getting at, and to see how the other instruments are responding to your rhythmic input. There may be something nice happening that will trigger other directions for you. One of the wonderful things about working with other musicians is coming up with something together. When the whole band gets excited about something, you just know it's going to work, because everybody will be happy, feel part of this holistic experience, and play their fingers off. But there are still many options open to you. Much will depend upon your own temperament as a player. What sort of situation makes you most comfortable? Do you like to have your part worked out as much as possible, so your only concern when you play or record the song is getting it right? Some wise editor once advised an agonizing writer: "Don't get it right, get it down!" There's something in that for musicians as well, though perhaps not what the literary advisor meant. If you find you fly best "by the seat of your pants" -- again, if it works, it's right. Go wild. I have told the story before about how I was a big Keith Moon fan as a beginning drummer. All I wanted to do was get in a band that would play some Who songs so I could wail like he did. But when I finally found a band that actually wanted to play these songs, I discovered to my chagrin that I didn't like playing like Keith Moon. It was too chaotic, and things just weren't placed rationally. I wanted to play in a more careful, deliberate way -- to think about what I played where, and not just "let it happen." I am driven by a strong organizational, perfectionist demon. Of the two extremes, I must confess I probably prefer the dull and "correct" to the adventurous foray that doesn't quite come off. Again, that's a personal thing, and I sure don't think I'm necessarily right. It's just the way I am. So I'll continue along in that vein for a while -- as that's what comes naturally -- and talk about organizing a song. My personal approach is fairly linear. I'll often start simply at the beginning of the song and gradually build it -- if not dynamically, then in terms of activity. A simple roll around the toms in chorus one might double up in chorus two, and then by chorus three become a rip-roaring, two-bar, triplet-feel flurry of 64th notes. Or a gentle backbeat in verse one can develop through a Latin feel on the ride cymbal in verse two, and be echoed by a double-time full-throttle "race to the finish" during the rideout. Then there are accents, pushes, hi-hat chokes, sudden pauses, feel-shifts, staccato punctuations, downbeats on the toms instead of the snare, leaving the downbeat out, or emphasizing the upbeats on the ride pattern. There's also something I hear Manu Katche doing with Peter Gabriel and Robbie Robertson: insinuating the rhythm -- playing all around the beat without actually playing it, but it's absolutely there. This gets more complicated, but also more fun, and is very satisfying when you pull it off (not only for yourself, but for the song, the other musicians, and, hopefully, the audience. People so often seem to forget that an audience doesn't have to understand the music to enjoy it. How many of the millions of people who loved Pink Floyd's song "Money" and bought the _Dark Side Of The Moon_ album knew -- or cared -- that it was in 7/4? Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" again is in seven, and is one of the cleverest maskings of odd time -- and just happened to be a big hit for him. The time signature just didn't matter; the musicians used skill and musicality to make it feel good, and that's what the audience responded to. That's what "accessibility" is really all about: communicating the thing properly. That's your ultimate responsibility, and your ultimate blame. Sure, there are no black-and-white absolutes in music, (or almost none), but it sometimes happens that a great song doesn't "click" with people because it just wasn't put together right. The listeners might not be able to articulate the flaw, and neither may the musicians. But if it doesn't reach the people you would have expected to like it, the song just didn't connect. So it's up to us to make the connections. ----------------------------------------------------------
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