The National Midnight Star #82

Errors-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: RUSH Fans Digest of 10/29/90 (#82)
RUSH Fans Digest, Number 82 Monday, 29 October 1990 Today's Topics: Administrivia Rush GIFs Chronicles video Red Tide and God(sounds cool...) Chronicles-VIDEO re: fan lists aux Canada Red Tide Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 10/26/90 (#81) Chronicles video, rasters, religion, etc. Rush Religious Overtones Various and sundry bits and pieces Red Tide Red Tide File requests Xmas In Australia, RHPS, Superman, and Digital Man Presto Rush vs Christianity Transcriptions Chronicles video, and where IS Peter Collins... Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 10/26/90 (#81) solo stuff . . . Cronicals Bassists, take 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Manager, RUSH Fans Mailing List Subject: Administrivia Hi all, Just a quick note to let you know the results of the voting. It turns out it was a close race; the winner won by *one* vote! I'd also like to add that the turnout was pretty low, less than 25% of the total list. I guess I shouldn't be surprised; this is the normal turnout in a national election, so why should we be any different? On the humorous side, neither myself nor David-the-vote-compiler remembered to vote! (Not that our choices would have swayed the results in the least, it turns out.) Hmmm, I guess that means I can't make any smirk-y comments about the turnout, eh? :-) And the winner is (drumroll, please!): The National Midnight Star !!!! I almost didn't include this, remembering only the SCTV connection, until I remembered the lines from "Red Lenses": "we've got Mars on the horizon says the National Midnight Star" I guess it's a good thing I did! Here is the voting breakdown: NATIONAL MIDNIGHT STAR 41 } SIGNALS 40 } (sooo close!!) DAILY SHREVE 7 UNDERLYING THEME 6 TEMPLE PAPER 3 SHMENG BOROUGH TIMES 2 CYBERSPACE RUSH REVIEW 1 THE OVERTURE 1 THE RUSH METHOD 1 THE REAL RELATION 0 --------- TOTAL 102 The Digest starting tomorrow will reflect the new name. Thanks for all who participated! rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: atz@clmqt.marquette.Mi.US (Jeff) Subject: Rush GIFs Date: 26 Oct 90 08:21:48 EDT (Fri) Hi all! For people out there who have the encoding and decoding capabilities, I can send you Rush GIFs thru mail. Jeff atz@clmqt.marquette.mi.us ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 08:46:53 PDT From: ddelany@raven.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) Subject: Chronicles video Does anybody have a catalog number for it yet? Has anybody actually SEEN it yet? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 12:07:05 -0400 From: cs021045@cs.brown.edu (Jason Rosenberg) Subject: Red Tide and God(sounds cool...) Well, to add to what will, again, be an undoubtably large set of answers to some questions raised yesterday, here I go. Patrick someone asked about Red Tide and its meaning. Although a few lines allude to AIDS, it seems that the song is Neil being pissed off at the way people abuse the environment/world. Alex mentioned in a guitar magazine that Neil is very environmentally minded, and that the song was inteneded to be an angry piece. The jist of it is that this is our only world. Why are we being so careless? The next answer I would like to give out(in all of my divine given wisdom) is the answer about religion and the boyz. It seems that Neil is an atheist/agnostic. He believes in neither God nor the Devil. He isn't, from what I can tell, such a fan of organized religion, either. The other two are different. Although I have no clear way of judging, my impression is that when the band started, Alex and Geddy were agreeing mostly with Neil(at least after he came in) but now, they seemed to have changed. At least they aren't so vocal. Geddy made a commect on RockLine after HYF that as he ages, his opinions change. He was answering a question about his view of Ayn Rand, but he slipped religion in as well. The boyz(2 anyway) may be lightening up a tad in their "later years" Who knows? Jason Rosenberg *************** Q. How do you play plywood? A. Well you wear gloves so as not to get splinters, you take a piece of 1/4" plywood, and smack it down HARD on the top of a wooden stool. Very demanding, technically - took years of practice. -Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Oct 90 11:08:00 CDT From: za073@zeus.unomaha.edu Subject: Chronicles-VIDEO Apon hearing about the relase of the video, I checked a local record store to see if they had it in. They didn't, but the clerk told me they would have it in friday, saturday at the latest(10-26 or 10-27). I hope this helps anyone. "Unstable condition, a symptom of life." Karl ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 12:32:16 ADT From: Ken Dykes <kgdykes@aftermath.waterloo.edu> Subject: re: fan lists aux Canada >From: V068J6JK@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu >Subject: Fan Groups > >yesterday also. The reason for this post is my shock at the absence of lists >for some other great Canadian bands. I am not familiar enough with the >school's computer to start a list myself, but would anyone out there be >interested in say a Triumph(I know they broke up, but I'm still a fan) or Kim >Mitchell/Max Webster group? > >Well, enough of that non-Rush stuff! I read yesterday about the $19.95 price Non Rush??? ha! you *do* realize that on Max Webster "Universal Juveniles" album that Rush joined in???? >for the Chronicles video! I'm very excited. Since the typical price for a >new video is 25 or 30 bucks, and being that I am the typical poor college >student, I thought I'd have to wait a while to get it. But at 20 bucks, I can >get it as soon as a store in the area has it. Does anyone know if/when it will be on LaserVideo ?? Much better sound on videodisk than some mangled edge-track on an overplayed tape :-) -ken - Ken Dykes, Software Development Group, UofWaterloo, Canada [43.47N 80.52W] kgdykes@watmath.waterloo.edu [129.97.128.1] watmath!kgdykes ---------------------------------------------------------- From: djbarans@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: Red Tide Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 13:08:29 EDT Being from the beaches of North Carolina, I know a little about the Red Tide. It is an excess of a certain type of bacteria that is caused supposedly by industrial wastes such as phosphates, etc. It kills off the marine life and when the tide rolls in, it has a reddish tint, hence the name red tide. There is also yellow tide, I think, and that occurs mostly north of Virginia. So the song Red Tide, which has many allusions to the nastiness of the environment, is basically about all the bad things society does to the environment. In the last two lines, it is stated that it is time to stop the pollution and get our mess together. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 13:20:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Lowell Brumitt <bb1v+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 10/26/90 (#81) > Excerpts from internet.rush: 26-Oct-90 RUSH Fans Digest of 10/26/9.. > rush@syrinx.umd.edu (21967) > I am a big fan of all of Rush's work and a friend told me that the band > members do not believe in God. I can see that the lyrics of some of > their > songs plainly state that they do not recognize the existence of God because [various examples cut] > Does anyone have any input on this subject or the religious beliefs of > the band members? Well, given Neil's Randian influences, it would be unlikely for him to be anything other than an atheist. Though, agnosticism is a possibility. Personally, I agreee with their attitude of seperating their private lives from their work, ie, their music. It's their business, not ours. Barry. "Experience to Extremes" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 14:23:51 -0400 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Chronicles video, rasters, religion, etc. Greetings -- as far as the video goes, I'm psyched! In calling around to various stores here in Delaware, I was told the video was delayed until Tuesday, so I'm being patient! The song selection looks good! What's up with the rasters? I tried FTPing the Waterloo system anonymously, and was denied...what gives? To the person that asked about the boyz' religious beliefs, I agree with you as to the meanings of Freewill and High Water, but I'm not sure how much the band subscribes to those theories. I would gather that at least Neil, as writer of the lyrics, agrees with what HE wrote! Geddy is of the Jewish faith, and I know he had a Jewish wedding, but again, I've never heard him talk about his beliefs. I'm not sure of what faiths Alex and Neil are! I hope we can discuss this in a rational manner without any religious zealots misconstruing what we are trying to bring out. savvy savvy@brahms.udel.edu ******************************************************************** "One thought he was invincible, the other thought he could fly... they were both wrong! -- Steven Seagal "Marked for Death" ******************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- From: rlr%bbt@rti.rti.org (rader) Subject: Rush Religious Overtones Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 14:27:15 EDT > > I am a big fan of all of Rush's work and a friend told me that the band > members do not believe in God. > > Does anyone have any input on this subject or the religious beliefs of > the band members? > > -Mark > Actually, I have an incredible amount of input on this subject. Maybe I should say opinions on the subject; regardless, this seems to fan the flames out of control whenever someone brings it up (and not only on the Rush list either, try rationally discussing religion with 95% of the population and you're sure to heat the emotions. Most people aren't prepared to debate their subjective realities.). I had the good luck to initiate a short-lived thread concerning some disparaging comments Neil Peart made about Black Sabbath. My original questions go unanswered, but religion was brought into the thread, and a couple of Rush-listers got a bit testy ;). Therefore, I'm inviting Mark and any other Rush fans who wish, to contact me via email concerning religion and rock in general (use the addresses in my .sig). Maybe that way we can keep it civil, who knows? As far as Neil, Geddy, and Alex are personally concerned, I can't really speak for them or their personal beliefs (and neither can the other Rush- listers, although they might try! ;)). I think it's clear from Rush's music, however, that Rush views theistic belief with healthy skepticism (at least!). I don't know what label the members would apply to them- selves, if any. An extra tidbit: A few weeks ago, I mentioned an Jim Ladd radio inter- view with Floyd guitarist David Gilmour, in which Jim questioned David about his public pronouncement of atheism (since Pink Floyd sounds very etherial, what's the deal?). David's reply, which I thought was extremely cool, was that this was evidence of a spiritual "present" (as in tense), an inherent part of material being. As opposed to the general theistic denial of materialism in favor of their ideal spirituality. You get the message; I welcome comments/further discussion. -- ron rader, jr rlr%bbt@rti.rti.org = Opinions are my own and do not | | i gotta six- rlr%bbt$rti.rti.org@CUNYVM = necessarily reflect those of | | pack, & nothin' to do ...!mcnc!rti!bbt!rlr = BroadBand Tech. (SO THERE!) *** Punk ain't no religious cult, punk means thinking for yourself - DKs *** ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 10:04:28 hst From: Hinano Akaka <bigtuna!hinano@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Subject: Various and sundry bits and pieces Morning, chaps! Forgive my typing, I left my glasses at home and am quite BLIND! Oh well, gives me an excuse to sleep in class as I can't see the board... First off...someone asked if there were any 'girls' on this list, well, I know there's at least one (me!)...I know you're al confused--'Hinano' is my dad's name. I take over his computer every morning ('evil deed, evil deed') to read the Digest. Ha-ha! Another one of those "Steve Owen-Mike Owen" debates! Oh well, just for future reference, I really don't mind being called by my dad's name. As they say, "it don't make no mind to me!" Well enough of that--oh, boy, I'm about to open the proverbial can of komodo dragons (forget the worms!). Sorry, rush-mgr, you're free to delete this if you so choose. [ I don't delete unless the posting is totally inappropriate to the context of this group. For the record, I've only deleted one post for inappropriate content (not counting 'add me' or 'drop me' notes); it was not for 'inflamatory content', just inapropriate. (If you *reeely* want to know, send mail to rush-request.) :rush-mgr ] Someone asked about whether the boyz believe in God. Well...I do know that Geddy comes from a family of Polish Jews, and as his parents are directly from Europe (were theey, in fact, from Poland?) I'm sure he's had at least some background in religious matters. Aside from that, I really don't think it's fair to say whether they do or don't believe in God (not to mention it's also none of our busieness). My feeling is (and it's just a *feeling*) that *in general* I think thy do. But I don't think they believe that God controls every aspect of one's life. I don't see how belief in God constitutes the belief that God controls evrything. The boyz are a very individual and independent bunch of guys and they'll believe what suits thier tastes. As for "High Water" (I'm deliberately leaving "Freewill" out of this) containing some lines about "evolution", I don't understand how that can prove that they don't believe in the existence of God. Maybe God 'inventd' evolution in the first place! For me (and maybe for them), I really don't trust what the Bible says; I don't want to take a human being's word on what God thinks--I'd rather hear it from God himself (<--EDITORIAL PIECE). Like I said, I'm sure I've opened up several proverbial cans of worms. Religion is a very touchy subject, and not one to be tread upon lightly. As always I hope I didn't offend anyone (including the original poster), these are "my opinions and not necessarily those of anhyone else", and are not meant to sway, criticize, etc. anyone or anyone's beliefs. Any and all may criticize what I've just written (or agree), but I will say nothing more... Now that that's over with...a couple o' questions: *Was there ever a video done for "Territories"? I keep thinking there was for some reason. I don't mean the one on ASOH, but a 'studio' video. *In the Signals Tour Book, there are pictures of the roadies. Does anyone know who is who? Th only person I can figure out for sure is Larry Allen (he's only obvious!) Anyone know the others? Puanani Akaka WORQ: "But there it was, the response, the tonality, the overall *exitement* of the Ludwig sound was just *fractionally* better. So...I ordered a set!"--Neil Peart on changing from his Tamas to his Ludwigs. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 16:21:04 -0400 From: John M. Burian<burian@barney.bgsu.edu> Subject: Red Tide >my question for today is: what is red_tide about? a friend of >mine told me that it is about AIDS. which makes sense... but not >through out the whole song..... >any idea.... I originally thought that _Red Tide_ was about the Soviet Union and the threat of nuclear war ("..endless winter night.."), but, like the aids theory, it doesn't fit the entire song (besides, the Soviet threat seems to be a thing of the past). However, a friend mentioned that it was about some nasty red algae that literally covers lakes, kills fish, washes up on shore, and is a hazard in general. Somebody know anything more detailed? john. "-.---.----..-.---.----.." burian@barney.bgsu.edu - (take a guess who) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 16:20:16 -0400 From: supriya (Supriya Goyal) Subject: Red Tide Someone asked about the meaning of Red Tide. I may be way off on this but I have always interpreted it as a song about the environment. It says "stay out of the sun it only burns my skin sky full of poison and the atmosphere's too thin" I really liked the song alot the first time I heard it. In fact I even wrote my own version of it. Here it is Lost Land By Supriya Goyal Sun rises over the horizon Spreading its rays on a poisoned land Took for granted it would last a million years Now its time's measured in grains of sand Kingdoms of glass shatter in our hands Threatening to leave a world of strangers A revolution stirs against the commansds But still our eyes are blind to the dangers (Chorus) On empty promises we can't rely Need a vision of the future now that won't lie Must end these practices that are sure to kill All of us must fight to save our free will Once it's lost there's no road to go back True faith and rhythm are the powers we lack It's time for a world of sinners to make amends Time to heed the warnings nature sends (End of Chorus) Rain that was once a gift from the heavens Has been made deadly by lack of care We do nothing as the end quickly nears Ignorant by choice if we're not aware Broken glass is falling from our hands Beginning to wound a land of strangers The war has grown stronger against the commands But still we choose to ignore the dangers (Chorus) Forests that once shined full of glory Now living in some half forgotten past The land calls for help but non one hears Our chance for survival has faded fast Fatal glass has covered the entire land Has brought an end to the world of strangers Rebellion has overpowered the commands And all dreams have surrendered to the dangers (Chorus) Second verse third line should read A revolution stirs against the commands Well anyway I'd be glad to hear other interpretations of Red Tide. --Supriya Z. Goyal "Quiet rebellion leads to open war."--"Red Tide" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 14:04:56 -0700 From: Douglas V. Simpkinson <douglips@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: File requests Could someone e-mail me the 2112 tourbook? I forget what digest it was in, or I'd request a back issue, and I stupidly overwrote it. Also, if someone could tell me where to find rush raster files, I'd be happy. Doug douglips@ocf.berkeley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 90 00:11:27 EDT From: vanth!jms@rutgers.edu (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Xmas In Australia, RHPS, Superman, and Digital Man Couple of unrelated questions this time, plus a comment. First, why was 'Xanadu' listed as 'Xmas In Australia' in the first of the two discographies posted recently? Second, the list manager mentioned that the Rocky Horror videotape was going to be $19. Someone tried to tell me today that it was going to be $90! Which sounds a little unreasonable, to say the least, but one never knows. Is it really going to be $90? [ On the R.H. topic, I was in error in my original note. I re-checked with several local places, and have gotten prices ranging through $69.99, $79.99, and $89.99. *Sheesh* :rush-mgr ] Now the comment. The person who said that he thought that 'Presto' could be about the pre-Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths Superman reminded me of the time I actually worked out how the 'Grace Under Pressure' and 'Power Windows' albums could contain prophecies of the Challenger disaster. (I'm not kidding!) Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I've forgotten most of the details. Needless to say, I was extremely bored at the time. I've been bored recently too, and I've started to work out how 'Digital Man' could be about Dr. Paul Bennewitz (an infamous, or famous, person in the annals of 1980s UFOlogy.) I may actually post this latter theory when I get it all together. I'd like to hear others' theories on 'Digital Man' too, if anyone has any good ones. There are still plenty of parts that my Bennewitz theory doesn't explain. Wow, this got a bit longer than I thought. I can't wait to see the replies to it! :-) ---------- paper : James Shaffer Jr., 37 Brook Street, Montgomery, PA 17752 uucp : uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms (or) rutgers!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms domain: jms%vanth@amix.commodore.com CompuServe: 72750,2335 ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION: WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL ---------------------------------------------------------- From: atz@clmqt.marquette.Mi.US (Jeff) Subject: Presto Date: 27 Oct 90 00:44:03 EDT (Sat) With all of this discussion going on about the song Presto, I figure I would throw my two cents in... I have always gotten DEEP into older Rush songs, most of them always seem so complex in every aspect... However, to me, the song PRESTO seems so easily understood, in my opinion, people seem to be looking for a deeper meaning, than is really there.... To me... PRESTO is simply about someone looking back on their life, and the mistakes they made and realizing how wonderful hind-sight is, that like with a Wave of a Wand they could go back in to their past, and make everything turn out the way they want it. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: lrc!cameron_bd@mcnc.mcnc.org Date: Sat, 27 Oct 90 10:32:23 EDT Subject: Rush vs Christianity Being from a Lutheran College...I just couldn't let this one pass by...Im not a lutheran but I am a christian and i do have a little more education then the average college joe in christianity (i think) As far as the boyz beliefs go...I can recall an article i read once where one of the band members was denouncing accusations that they played/encouraged devil music...While that doesn't mean that they believe in 'God' it doesn't mean that they don't either...Also there are several theories floating about that God created the world... and men but in order to have a heaven and a hell...he had to give man the ability to choose for himself what he wanted...i.e. "Freewill" Again that might not be the translation of the song but then again...???...It doesn't point out any preferences of Rush towards atheism...Also 'High Water' might seem to contradict the chapter of genesis...but if one was to study the Bible one would realize that some of the greatest poetry ever written was in the Bible...poetry fraught with symbolism and semi-obscure allusions...is there any one literal translation for the bible, or is it more food for the soul...to be translated by the individual...There are tonnes more to say about this but I am probably skirting the edge of a Flamer so i'll let it lie Just remember i wouldn't say for sure what the boyz religious prefs are but from their songs i wouldn't want to draw any hasty conclusions... Brad "DIMEnSioNAl bOy" Cameron... Yo Ted..... ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Atro Tossavainen <d37690r@kaira.hut.fi> Subject: Transcriptions Date: Sat, 27 Oct 90 19:55:05 EET I have been bothered by the fact that all the Rush transcriptions that are available here are for easy piano & vocal. So I'd like to ask whether there are any complete and separated (i.e. guitar bass keyboards and vocals, perhaps even drums, no TAB needed) transcriptions or do I have to transcribe my own? Any mail-order addresses are welcome. -- d37690r@kaira.hut.fi ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 90 18:10:09 -0400 From: Daniel L. McDonald <danmcd@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Subject: Chronicles video, and where IS Peter Collins... I was in a local record store today looking for Chronicles on video. Before I actually asked the sales-idiot any questions, I noticed Queensryche's new album. What is this last sentence's relevance? When I saw the production credits on the back, I saw Peter Collins, and engineering by Jimbo Barton. Also I saw a few *-ed entries with reference to Paul Northfield. Has anyone checked out this particular album? On to more Rush-related things. None of the record stores I checked out in had Chronicles on video. I guess it might be out this Tuesday (10-30) instead. I didn't quite understand everyone else's postings. Is it out in other parts of the country? Or is everyone equally getting delayed? Also, I'm glad to hear that Mr. Lee, Lifeson, and Peart are back in the studio. I hope the new album comes out before I graduate! (i.e. this May) _____________________________________________________________________ Daniel L. McDonald | Internet: danmcd@eecs.umich.edu | University of Michigan| Bitnet: danmcd%eecs.umich.edu@umich.BITNET| Computer Science, '91 | USnail: 1705 Hill St. Ann Arbor, MI 48104| ______________________|_____________________________________________| "rising falling at force ten we twist the world and ride the wind..." - Rush ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 90 01:01:42 EDT From: vanth!jms@rutgers.edu (Jim Shaffer) Subject: Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 10/26/90 (#81) >From: yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca >Subject: La Villa and Presto > >2. Micheal Rowden postulates that "Presto" might be about the >"Pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths Superman", and for this I nominate >him for the "Get A Grip on Life" Prize. To me, this theory is Since this showed up *after* I had mailed my little ramblings (see my last message!), I'd better clarify things. I don't actually *believe* in anything I speculated about, but nevertheless I regard it as an interesting game to play -- something to keep the mind occupied. Much the same as I regard the "Paul McCartney is dead" scenarios, for an historical example. >[ Please, let's keep things under control ... :rush-mgr ] Uh huh. >From: telxon!teleng!dank@uunet.UU.NET (Dan Kelley) >Subject: SUN raster (again) If anyone gets their hands on these pictures, could you please let me know? I'd be interested in obtaining either GIF or IFF (Amiga) conversions of them. I'd have to do this by floppy though as my network connection is only 2400 baud. I can read 880K 3.5" Amiga disks and 720K 3.5" IBM disks. >From: Dark Elf <VESPOSIT@SBCCVM> >Subject: Lyrics to La Villa Strangiato????? > > In the Show of Hands video, Alex Leifson is shown singing or speaking > into the mike during La Villa Strangiato, but this "vocal portion" was deleted On "Exit Stage Left," there are two distinct portions. One is just "la la la la la, la la la, la la la la... Hey!" in time to the music, the other is definitely spoken words but I've never been able to decipher any of them. >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 21:20:46 -0500 >From: Patrick.Quairoli@cyber.widener.edu >Subject: Red tide. > >my question for today is: what is red_tide about? a friend of mind told >me that it is about AIDS. which makes sense... but not through out the whole >song..... The first verse definitely seems to be about AIDS. The remainder is apparently about various environmental problems such as acid rain ("The rain is burning on the forest floor,") ozone depletion ("Stay out of the sun, it only burns my skin ... and the atmosphere's too thin,") perhaps waste dumping ("And the red tide covers the shore," although red tide is an actual natural toxicity caused by algae also.) >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 17:14 CDT >From: B659ZAQ@UTARLG.UTARL.EDU >Subject: Freewill...? > > I am a big fan of all of Rush's work and a friend told me that the band >members do not believe in God. I can see that the lyrics of some of their >songs plainly state that they do not recognize the existence of God because >songs like "Freewill" state that events governing one's life are at random >and not ruled by a supreme God. Likewise, the song "High Water" says that One of them (Alex or Neil, I can't remember which) has said that he doesn't believe in Satan. I take this to mean that he doesn't believe in the rest of Christianity either. But I have no idea if the rest of the band share his beliefs, or what (if anything) he does believe in. ---------- paper : James Shaffer Jr., 37 Brook Street, Montgomery, PA 17752 uucp : uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms (or) rutgers!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms domain: jms%vanth@amix.commodore.com CompuServe: 72750,2335 quote : THE OWLS ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM. P.S.: I need an undigestifier program (obviously.) (By the way, I assure you that I WON'T have this many replies to most digests!) This node is an Amiga (Hi to the gang from NCDS!), but if anyone has any source code in C or Pascal that's not too machine-specific I'd be interested in seeing it. Mail it directly to me at one of the addresses in the above signature file. [ If you have emacs running on your machine, some versions have an un- digest-ifier built in. Hope this helps. :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 1990 15:12:24 EST From: STU_SMMCDANI@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU (Raw shark. Why would I want to know about Raw... Shark...) Subject: solo stuff . . . Hello all, This is my first posting to the list, and to start things out ironically enough, I'm going to mention something off the subject. For those of you out there who like them, Styx has reformed and just came out with a new album called _Edge_of_the_Century_. If you want any more info on what it is like, e-mail me and I will give my opinion of it. It is different . . . And now for my main question, I have watched for a week or two now, but the only mention of solo projects for each of the members has been Geddy's singing w/ Bob and Doug MacKenzie and Alex's Northern Lights thing. For most of the other bands I like, finding solo projects by the individual members isn't that much of a problem. Is there any others stuff floating around out there by the Rush guys? I have all of their released stuff except Chronicles, which I will probably get sometime when I'm feeling rich, and one concert taped from the radio. In ninth grade, a friend asked me if I wanted to go see a concert by Rush, so I naturally replied, "Who's Rush?" I didn't go to the show, but I did by the album on impulse. It was p/g, and I didn't like it at first, but it grew on me. 'tany rate, I like everything they've done except for the song Madrigal, which gets on my nerves for some reason. "Wheels within wheels in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex..." Rorschach (Scott McDaniel) (stu_smmcdani@vax1.jmu.edu) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Cronicals Date: Sun, 28 Oct 90 18:20:32 PST From: Bob Joslin <bobj@hpindbz.cup.hp.com> I don't know why, but I broke down and bought the Cronicals CD set. I've already got all the songs! It does seem to be a higher quality recording. There are more highs in Tom Sawyer, for example. I'm sure they massaged it a bit. Anyway, when I was at the store, I talked to a sales person (who I might add was wearing a well worn Presto T-shirt.) I asked him if he new about the Cronicals' Video. "Really, that would be realy cool!" He didn't know, but we did look in the receint releases order list. We could not find it. So, I'm a little concerned! I'll try a more relyable source tonight (Tower Records.) On the more coolness/get-a-life front... KOME (our local San Jose station) played Rush on the top 9 and 9 last friday night! This new CD set may have brought out a small Rush fever. Bob Joslin ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chainsaw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (David Laurenc Gordon) Subject: Bassists, take 2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 90 10:20:29 EST Hi! This is the second call for any bassists on the RUSH bbs who are interested in getting in touch with other bassists. I've already got about about five or six names, but I figure there are more bassists out there; after all, what bassist could not appreciate the talent of the Gedster? Anyway, if you don't want your name given out to other people, that's fine; I'll just mail you any information that I get. However, I suggest that you have your name sent out; my schedule does not allow for lenghty, regular trips to the terminal and you'll get information faster. (like the difference between overnight delivery and "we'll get it there when it's convienient.") If you've already sent in your name, you might want to send me anything new you've discovered. Thanx, Dave L. Gordon Johns Hopkins University chainsaw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ORQ: A modern day warrior, mean mean stride, Today's Tom Sawyer, mean mean pride. ----------------------------------------------------------
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